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It's clear some bloggers desperately need editors. Case in point--Gregg Easterbrook:

AND ABOUT THAT FAKE TURKEY: The "decorative turkey" in George W. Bush's hands in the Thanksgiving pictures from Baghdad should in fact make people angry. Hundreds of American dead, thousands of Iraqi dead, and the White House is staging phony photos on Iraqi soil? The occupation of Iraq may be justified, but White House use of the war as a political prop is becoming unseemly. And think: somebody had to fly a fake turkey to Iraq. Voters are not stupid; this sort of thing may backfire on Bush.

Voters aren't stupid; about that, Mr. Easterbrook is correct. But I'm afraid it's Mr. Easterbrook who is exhibiting more than his share of stupidity. Nobody had to fly that turkey over to Iraq just so President Bush could hold it. It was already there, a standard prop the military puts out for Thanksgiving holiday parties. How do I know that? I was in the military, and saw these prop turkeys more than once at big to-dos.

The "plastic" turkey incident won't backfire on President Bush, and it shouldn't. In fact, as AOG notes, the very impulse the president showed provided a rich contrast between himself and the dictator he was at that moment still hunting: W's instinct was to serve, rather than be served by, the troops in his command. That's a distinctively Christian, and American, view of leadership. Check out Jesus' washing his disciples' feet if you don't believe me.

I'm starting to think the chatterati needs to go through some sort of compulsory military education. Most of 'em haven't seen the outside of a think tank in a decade, and haven't been anywhere the actual military they talk so much about.

And at least one chatteratus needs an editor. His posts veer from the insightful to the moronic, and occassionally to the career-killing offensive.

(via Andrea Harris)

UPDATE: Batten down the hatches, it's an Instalanche!

I'd say "disappointed" is the right word for my reaction. I went to the mat defending Easterbrook against bloggers I respect on charges that he's an anti-Semite, only to have him fall for the lamest anti-Bush conspiracy yet. Thing is, he's no anti-Semite and his TMQ is the best football column out there. Does he get stuff wrong sometimes? Absolutely. He predicted the Ravens would be horrible this year, and they're a win away from clinching their division. But we all get football predictions wrong--as the saying goes, that's why they play the games. For instance I, a diehard Cowboys fan who stuck with them through Barry "The Bootlicker Boy" Switzer, would never have guessed that even the Tuna could turn that hapless bunch of amateurs from 5-11 to a possible 11-5 in a single season without a major change in personnel, and without Emmitt Smith, but that's just what the Tuna has done. With Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick in the backfield. As TMQ would say, Ye Gods! So we all get football predictions wrong. But there's no excuse for a real reporter to get the turkey story wrong, and Easterbrook did. So yeah, I'm disappointed. Very.

UPDATE: Easterbrook is wrong about space policy, too. He argues against building a lunar base on the grounds that it would be too expensive and useless for astronomy, but putting telescopes on the Moon makes a great deal of sense. Like current space telescopes--Hubble, Chandra, Spitzer and Compton (the latter of which is dead, btw)--Moon scopes would be beyond the earth's atmosphere and therefore get a clear view of the universe. But unlike space telescopes, scopes on the Moon would not suffer the effects of actually flying in low earth orbit at the speed of 17,000 miles per hour.

What are those effects? Well, for starters, orbiting scopes get a sunrise every 90 minutes. In Hubble's early days, its solar panels would greet that sunrise with a loud RING like a bell (if a telescope rings in space, where there's no air to transmit the vibration and no one's there to hear it, does it still make a sound?), which was caused by the sudden rise in temperature that came with the sun. Hubble's new wings (installed on orbit in 2002) compensate for this disturbance now, but with the old wings you had to wait for the vibes to settle down before you could get the finest imagery from it. Put Hubble on the Moon's dark side and see how often it rings. Hubble is also an expensive beast because we keep having to push it back to its proper orbit. In orbit, it's basically falling toward the earth all the time, but flying so high and fast that it keeps missing. Left alone, it eventually wouldn't miss. We send shuttles up to it both to fix the things that break (gyros, usually) and upgrade its technology, and to give it a kick upstairs. Put it on the Moon--no more need to push it back to its rightful place, which means one reason for expensive shuttle missions to Hubble goes away. And once we've established routine lunar flights to a base, servicing becomes much easier and cheaper.

Now, with current technology you can't do the deepest infrared astronomy from the Moon because it's too close to the warm earth, so we'll probably still need to put telescopes like Spitzer out at 5 million miles from earth. But Spitzer isn't upgradable and shuttles can't fly to it. If it breaks, it's dead. But on the other hand, it doesn't have the sunrise problem since it's so far out, and with advanced cryocooler technology we're already doing bang-up infrared astronomy with Hubble in low earth orbit, so who knows--we might be able to make a lunar telescope cold enough to out do Spitzer eventually.

Oh, and as long as we're no longer defending Gregg Easterbrook around here, we'll note that he's wrong about Saddam's teeth, too. That video sent exactly the right message, particularly to the Arab world.

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Posted by B. Preston on December 22, 2003 4:38 PM
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My understanding was that the “plastic turkey” criticism was even dumber because there was no plastic turkey. They way I understood it, there was one real honest-to-goodness roast turkey… and thousands and thousands of trays of prepared, pre-sliced turkey. I thought the turkey Bush held was real, though.

Either way, it’s a ludicrous scandal, and shame on Easterbrook for using it.

Finally, in closing, I take some pleasure in this, as I thought Easterbrook did not deserve the rousing defense he got from the blogosphere. I thought he was rightly fired for what he wrote.

Re-reading Andrea’s post, it seems that her understanding is probably similar to mine. Did I misread your post to think you thought otherwise?

I thought he was wrongly fired, but has turned out to be a doofus anyway. The whole turkey scandal is among the most stupid attempts to hurt any pol I’ve ever seen.

Posted by Bryan on December 22, 2003 4:51 PM

No, no—the turkey was probably real (Easterbrook pretty much got everything wrong—such a great reporter he is). But it was a prop in the sense that it was at the head table or wherever they put it, and it wasn’t actually part of the dinner. It was there for looks. The troops were being fed from big steel trays of pre-sliced bird.

Posted by Bryan on December 22, 2003 4:54 PM

When I saw the photos and video of the President holding the turkey, I thought that he was joking around with the troops around him. It was obvious that it was a decoration. Does any reasonable person believe that the Army mess is going to prepare, dress and stuff turkeys for the troops on Thanksgiving day? This is another example of how pathetic the Anit-War Left has become.

Posted by Kevin Shook on December 22, 2003 5:13 PM

You’re right, and of course the incident took all of about 3.5 seconds. Bush walked up to the turkey, looked at it, picked it up and joked “Nice looking bird,” then put it down. Some photog happened to snap the moment, and a scandal was born.

Pathetic. And Easterbrook is pathetic for buying into it.

Posted by Bryan on December 22, 2003 5:18 PM

Real of fake, food or prop, why does it matter? In the end, the President served the troops and himself ate exactly the same chow that he’d just fed them.

Maybe I’m missing something, but I never did see what made this a big deal one way or the other. The whole thing seemed more a desperate attempt by a Bush hater to make the Pres seem a fraud.

::sigh:: About two weeks ago I wrote about the return of TMQ and begged, “Now watch what you say [Easterbrook] and don’t make me regret supporting you.”

Regret is quickly approaching, although, there is still quite a stretch between plain foolishness and anti-Semitism.

Tom, it is rather a big deal in that it is like the Plame affair, but larger because it is smaller, if you will.

It demonstrates to all of us with crystaline clarity that there are a large number of Americans whose brains work as follows: “I MUST attack the President, every hour, every day, day after day. Period. Now, then, what can I use to do it?” i.e, The attack is what matters, not the weapon of choice.

Their assumption that these antics will cost them naught is sorely misplaced.

Posted by Andrew X on December 22, 2003 6:15 PM

Spoons, you are correct. The turkey was real. As John Cole often says, the left needs to learn reading comprehension and fast.

I’m not a veteran, but it’s perfectly obvious to me why they have a single ‘prop’ turkey. Maybe someone should spell it out in very simple words for Easterbrook and the rest:

If you’re serving 600 soldiers in one big room and you only have 2 hours to do it, and you probably also have other shifts coming in before and after, you don’t have the time, or the manpower, or even the table space to carve all the turkeys on the spot. That would be 30 or 40 birds, right? So you bring in huge piles of pre-sliced steam-table turkey meat, plus a single whole freshly-roasted bird that everyone can look at to get into the Thanksgiving spirit. I’m guessing the ‘prop’ bird may well be eaten, by the cooks, or the busboys, or whoever, after everyone else has been fed and gone back to their duty stations. Maybe not: by the end of the day it may be too cold and dried-out, or just too much trouble to slice when you have the pre-sliced stuff lying around.

Does any reasonable person believe that the Army mess is going to prepare, dress and stuff turkeys for the troops on Thanksgiving day?

Yes!

Marine Corps mess Sergeants take great pride in their birds.

At least they used to. I’ve been privileged to partake of several.

Don’t blame me on this one.

Would editors have caught the disinformation? Easterbrook has plenty of company in repeating this disinformation… almost as if editors only attempt to catch lies from the right…

Nah, couldn’t be…

Posted by Ryan Waxx on December 22, 2003 11:52 PM

But Easterbrook is no doubt relying on this irrefutable photographic evidence!

What say you now?

Of the turkey I’ve eaten, the best was roasted in plastic. Those golden brown beauties are dry and tasteless as often as not.

I was thinking what the reaction would have been if Bill Clinton had showed up at a dinner like this with troops sent to Yugoslavia? I would have viewed it as a publicity stunt. So, I guess people who despise Bush must think the same, but what they don’t understand is that the troops really like and respect Bush and they probably know that he had to overrule a lot of people to go show them his appreciation for what they’re doing.

Posted by AST on December 23, 2003 1:20 AM

Of course, if Bush had ever served in the military, he might have been more familiar with this particular brand of prop turkey, but daddy’s friends made sure it would never come to that.

Posted by Garnet on December 23, 2003 3:48 AM

I still think that Bush is incredibly selfish for lifting that carbon/carbon fiber turkey and brandishing it. If he really cared about the troops, he’d have gone there a day earlier, and smoked and deep fried turkeys for them. It’s criminal that this man was enjoying turkey in the palatial confines of Crawford, Texas, while denying smoked and deep fried cajun style turkey, homemade cranberry sauce, roast parsnips and shots of Jack Daniels to our troops. And if he really cared, he’d pull a couple shifts of sentry duty in the mountains of Afghanistan, so the troops could stand down to enjoy their Thanksgiving day treat of TurDucken. And the only way I’d vote for him is if he showed he cared and deployed with the Navy as a deck swab for 11th months straight.

Otherwise, he’s just a soulless Republican ghoul who feasts on the souls and delicate spleens of recently deceased little minority children, women and gays, all of whom he has just starved to death through his welfare reform program. My man Howard Dean would never do that…

During the first Gulf War, Easterbrook debunked the value of smart bombs and stealth technology, by pointing out that non-stealth fighters dropping dumb bombs also were having great success with few losses.

Later, he wrote an article about stealth technology claiming that the stealth fighter is faceted, but the stealth bomber smooth, because they were designed based on different theories. In fact, the theory is the same. The bomber was designed later, when faster computers were available. People who have played all the versions of Tomb Raider have seen the same smoothing phenomenon in Lara Croft.

Easterbrook is the Jose’ Canseco of journalism. He hits lots of home runs, but also has balls bounce off his head over the fence for the other team.

Posted by Bob Hawkins on December 23, 2003 10:09 AM

You know what kills me the most about Turkeygate? People used it as a reason to criticize Bush, as if taking advantage of photo-ops for political purposes was a bogus evil inherent exclusively to the likes of Republicans, to say opponents of Bush aren’t wont to kiss a few babies for the sake of being re-elected. And isn’t being elected pretty much the primary goal of any politician, regardless of their ideological loyalties?

Posted by Emily on December 23, 2003 1:56 PM
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