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Those of you looking around for the latest on the Boston Globe's airing of uncensored hard-core porn that smears US troops, see the post below. For the rest, story time.

I guess I'm what National Review and others have taken to calling a "panicked hawk." Having supported the Iraq war--and continuing to support it to the utmost--I find myself of the opinion that we are playing a solid hand very badly and are in real danger of losing the war. I've gone from an optimist on the war to a near abject pessimist in the space of about 10 days, and this blog has reflected that change. I think an explanation is in order.

Around the time John Kerry became the Democrat nominee to oppose President Bush, I started working on opposition research. I announced a little campaign on this blog to get ahold of The New Soldier, Kerry's 1971 anti-war book with a mock Iwo Jima flag-raising on the cover. I'd looked in my local library and didn't find the book, and figured the JYB's readership might enjoy helping out.

Our splinter cells went to work at the Library of Congress as well as other university and local libraries around the country, and finally an intrepid operative struck paydirt. He got the book, scanned most of it and sent it to me. I haven't written up a review--yet. But I will.

For now, the short verion--The New Soldier is an awful book. No wonder Kerry has spent the last thirty years suppressing its publication. It's an embarrassment, full of photos so full of drug-addled hippies you can almost smell them across the decades. The writing is bad and cliched beatnik claptrap, and though Kerry is its nominal author, he barely makes a cameo.

While all that was activity going on, I made several trips to the library to research the larger Vietnam-era anti-war movement. I wanted to understand Kerry and his times--I was four when Saigon fell--and I wanted to understand his role in the movement and his possible role in the US defeat. It's the only time we have lost a war. I wanted to know if the man a major party was nominating for President had played a significant role in that defeat. It's a relevant question in a time of peace, and only more so in a time of war.

But during my research, Kerry almost became a sideshow. I started seeing how the anti-war movement of which Kerry was a part contributed to our defeat in Vietnam. And I started to get worried.

Vietnam was a strange war. I took a college class on Vietnam back when I was chasing my degree, and the odd thing about it was that battlefield tactics almost never came up. That was definitely not the case in the Civil War class I took--in that class, our texts and our professor went on at length about which generals succeeded and why, taking into account the terrain, weather, battlefield objectives and so forth. Nearly everything about the Civil War--Lincoln's relationship with his commanders and cabinet, Grant's rise and McClellan's fall, the North's attitude toward the war--was tied closely to battlefield success or failure.

But the Vietnam class was different. It was all about politics and sociology, with very little about the actual war on the ground. My term paper was on the Battle of Hue, one of the few urban battles of the entire war. It took place during the Tet Offensive, and was a resounding victory for the US side and a staggering defeat for the North Vietnamese. Yet they fought on, more confident than ever, while the US began to sulk and divide along ideological lines. The Vietnam War ran well over a decade, with more than 50,000 American dead by its end. Why did scholars pay so little attention to what actually happened on the battlefield?

I had that question answered when I studied the anti-war movement earlier this year. Scholars pay so little attention to actual battles in Vietnam because they didn't matter to the war's outcome. The shooting war took place in jungles on the other side of the world from America, but the real war took place on the Mall in Washington and in the streets of America. We won Vietnam in Vietnam, but lost Vietnam in America. The anti-war movement is largely responsible for this outcome.

To be sure, our politicians failed miserably to understand just how crafty the enemy was, and that failure played a role too. Nixon failed to understand that when he ran for President in 1968 on his secret plan to end the war, he telegraphed to the North Vietnamese that he would enter office believing the war was unwinnable. LBJ failed to capitalize on the successes of Operation Rolling Thunder, a massive bombing campaign that very nearly destroyed the North's ability to wage war by 1967, allowing negative press to pull his finger off the trigger when victory was in sight. But the anti-war movement made America feel guilty for the war, waved the bloody shirt for every single setback suffered or crime our troops committed in the war--real as well as imagined--and mainstreamed the most ludicrous opinions of America and our reason for entering the war in the first place.

The short version of that is that we entered the war when the North Vietnamese Communist forces crushed French forces fighting on the side of the South, forcing a pullout. We stepped in to fill the gap the French were leaving behind, believing that a Communist Vietnam would influence other states in the region to flip red. Our reasons were noble--defend a poorly armed and defended (and led) populace from a Stalinist menace. Vietnam was a very hot period of the Cold War. Those who fatuously say today that we defeated Communism without firing a shot would do well to visit the black wall in Washington, which lists our dead from Vietnam. Those men and women died in a losing battle that was part of a war we ultimately won.

The war dragged on past Truman and Eisenhower through Kennedy and Johnson to Nixon. Republicans and Democrats, a very bipartisan war. In 1971, when Kerry came on to the scene, the anti-war movement was in full swing but still a fringe movement. It needed a mainstream spokesman, someone who could de-hippify the movement and make it palatable in Peoria, and Kerry stepped into that role like he'd been born for it. He took all the wild tales of American atrocities, mostly made up by KGB operatives across Europe, and put them into the mouth of a decorated Vietnam war hero. He--John Forbes Kerry, Ivy Leaguer, recipient of the Silver Star, Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts--called American troops baby killers, rapists and the rest. Every indication I've come across indicates he knew he was lying. He knew, as his VVAW friends attest, that he was being used by the anti-war movement to put a reasonable face on their radicalism, and they knew he was using them for a future in politics. He met with Communist representatives in Paris, and used their talking points on how to end the war. For Kerry it was partly belief and partly business, a kind of finishing school for the leftist politician, training ground for a new soldier.

But as I said several hundred words ago, Kerry became a sideshow in my research. The anti-war movement, simply put, was the single most important factor in our defeat in Vietnam. I've written a couple of posts about this that go into more detail, but the Communist North figured out two essential truths in the mid-60s, and those truths changed the war. First, they discovered that no matter what they did, they would not defeat us on the battlefield. Even at its worst, the Vietnam-era US military was far superior to its foe. It was better led, better trained and better equipped, and hailed from a country with nearly unlimited resources. It would not be defeated in battle, period, at least not in the long run. This truth held up throughout the war--US forces never lost a battle. But essential truth #2 was the kicker. The North discovered that it could win the war while losing every single battle, by altering the political landscape for US presidents here at home.

It was General Vo Nguyen Giap, commander of North Vietnames forces, who figured it out. He'd led the defeat of the French in 1954 and would later lead Vietnam in defeating China in 1979, in both cases employing novel tactics designed to exploit his enemies' greatest weaknesses. By about 1966 or 67, Giap had figured out our Achilles Heel: We are political hemophiliacs. Prick us in the right spot, and we bleed to death thanks to a hardened anti-American core on our political left and our inability to shout it down. He just had to figure out what that spot was, and he did, and won.

Fast forward to our war today, a war that bears almost no resemblance to Vietnam, save one fact: Like then, today we have a hardened and determined anti-war movement and a hostile press that will not fail to spread any lie if it undermines the war effort. From my studies it made sense to me that anyone opposing the US today would study the tactics of the one General who had been able to defeat us, and would try to adapt what he had done to present circumstances. So I started watching for signs that a) al Qaeda had gone to school on us using Giap as its guide, and b) that today's anti-war movement could succeed over the long run in mainstreaming anti-Americanism, rhetoric, etc.

Al Qaeda is barely an organization, more like a criminal gang than an army. But its leadership isn't stupid. It came up with 9-11 precisely because it had studied us and determined our vulnerabilities. It designed the attacks to achieve maximum exposure and, it believed, would inflict maximum damage on our economy and our national psyche. 9-11 was a masterpiece of asymmetrical warfare, using $3 box cutters to kill thousands and do trillions of dollars in damage. Though 9-11 did significant damage, it did not force economic collapse and did not make us cower in fear. It made us angry, and we determined to wipe al Qaeda from the face of the earth.

I believe that Osama bin Laden underestimated our both response and our effectiveness. He didn't believe we would actually invade Afghanistan, or that we could topple the Taliban once we had. He believed we might send a few missiles his way, perhaps a carrier group to bombard his camps, but no boots on the ground. He'd watched our 1990s conflicts in Kosovo and Iraq, and he'd forced our pullout of Somalia. He believed we were too soft to fight. He had no clue that we would also invade Iraq.

We all know what happened. But bin Laden had gone to school on us. He knew about our political hemophilia. Given time, and a wound in just the right place, we would bleed ourselves to death.

That's why I got worried. I suspected that al Qaeda knew what such a wound could do to us, and was either planning to inflict that wound or hoping we would inflict it on ourselves since it seemed that al Qaeda could no longer mount an attack us US soil. He knew that either way, he could count on US political forces arrayed against the Bush administration to do his heavy lifting once the wound had been inflicted.

Abu Ghraib is that wound, or threatens to be. It will lead to exposure of other "atrocities," real and imagined. It will draw a line from a prison in Iraq to prisons here in America, and will lead to an airing of our worst side in the middle of a war in which our moral authority is indispensible to victory. The world already hates and fears us; seeing us as a truly abusive power, in living color, will dash whatever sympathy the world may have still held for us. Abu Ghraib will also paint us into a corner in which we will no longer be able to use serious methods to interrogate dangerous terrorists who may have information on future attacks. It will give a hostile press and our political opposition something to exploit, and will give the anti-war movement renewed energy. As the war has heated up, fringe leftist rhetoric has gone mainstream, with Democrats spouting "Bush knew!" and accusing him of plotting the war for purely political purposes. There is even a returned US soldier from Iraq playing Kerry's latter day mini-me. The Vietnam-era anti-war movement is back in force, ready to turn America once again from sure victory to catastrophic defeat.

What we have witnessed in the past week or so has been the bleeding from the Abu Ghraib wound. Al Qaeda got very lucky, because otherwise the war in Iraq was going fairly well for us. Violence had flared up in Iraq, but so had local elections--in which mullahs ran for office and lost to businessmen and doctors. A militia had sprung up to oppose us, but another militia had sprung up to oppose the first militia. We were showing patience and restraint, and applying force properly for the most part and avoiding civilian casualties. The Zarqawi memo told a story of inevitable allied victory and terrorist defeat.

And then Abu Ghraib. And our political opposition thinks it has a "silver bullet," our Senate all but handcuffs our intel operatives, the press goes wild with stories about US "atrocities" even while terrorists saw an innocent American's head off with a machete, and we flagellate ourselves into a stupor from which we may not recover.

So I'm worried. I'm not panicked by any means, but I'm a pessimist now. I think we have taken a very strong hand and played it extremely poorly, thanks mostly to internal bickering, recrimination and anti-Americanism on the left and in the press. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't think I am. If we stay on the path we're on, no matter who wins in November, we will lose this war. Due to the war's increasing unpopularity we will pull out of Iraq prematurely, it will descend into chaos as the Iranians and al Qaeda and Syria vie for control from without while the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds battle within. We will have painted ourselves into a corner from which we will be unable, for political reasons, to use force. We will repeal the Patriot Act, which has probably been the single biggest reason we haven't had a major attack on our soil since 9-11. We will sit back on our heels while Iran and North Korea continue their nuclear programs, and we will pay dearly for it.

Imagine, for a second, the terrorists on that Islamicist snuff film--the ones who sawed Nicholas Berg's head off while he screamed in agony--armed with a nuclear device. Do you doubt for a second that they would use it to destroy an American city? If you do, you're a fool. But as I've been repeating lately, experience is a dear teacher, and a fool will learn by no other.

I pray that we don't have to learn via that experience or something similar. But I'm not optimistic anymore. We're about to let the fools run the show, and we'll pay for it.

MORE: I think people need to read this post a couple of times to understand what I am saying and what I am not saying. I am not saying the war is already lost. I am saying we should not take for granted that it is already won, either. We have been doing that for too long, and should stop. We're on a knife's edge right now, with victory and defeat as viable possibilities.

I am also not saying Iraq=Vietnam. The war we fight today is very, very different from Vietnam, but there is a striking similarity. In the same way that the Civil War was the first truly modern war, with "total war," mass casualties, modernizing weaponry and so forth, Vietnam was the first post-modern war, and the global war on terrorism is the second.

Post-modern war? What does that mean?

Post-modern war is about asymmetry and information management as opposed to battlefield tactics. Don't get me wrong; if we lose on the battlefield we'll lose the war. But because the conflict is asymmetrical, our enemy doesn't have to win on the battlefield to defeat us. He only has to win politically, and all he really has to do to accomplish that is demoralize us. We can win every single battle in the current war and still lose, just like Vietnam. Fortunately in that earlier war, what we were fighting was really a campaign in the larger Cold War, so losing it didn't translate into losing the war. Reagan eventually applied a bit of asymmetry to the larger war, outspending the Soviets instead of outfighting them while threatening to obliterate them if they went too far, and we won. I believe failure in Iraq stands a good chance of leading to loss in the war generally, because it's likely to demoralize us and there is no larger enemy to outspend and thus recover victory.

Demoralization was one of the key Soviet Cold War strategies, and they invented and spread anti-American propaganda to accomplish that end. The Vietnam-era talking points, the nuclear freeze movement, and anti-American political organizations spread throughout the country were created for the express purpose of demoralizing us and convincing us that we weren't a force for good in the world. The Soviets are on the ash heap of history now, but their machines live on like a watching ticking on a dead man's wrist. Nuke freeze, International ANSWER, and so forth are still here, recruiting new volunteers but mostly relying on their grizzled anti-war veterans to keep up the fight. Their talking points have gotten mainstreamed by the hard left of the Democrats to the point that you can find somewhere between 10 and 40 percent of the country believing some level of the lie about us--that we're imperialists, that we only fight for oil, that we're the symbol of oppression in the world, etc.

That leads to a lack of self-confidence on our part, and thus soft support for the war as it extended past Afghanistan. We went into Iraq with about 65% support, but it was soft and predicated on the WMD threat, not the larger anti-terrorism strategic framework. That recipe meant that the war support numbers could only go down, not up, no matter what happened on the battlefield.

We won the actual war in Iraq handily but WMDs didn't materialize, or when they did the press hasn't taken up the story with any gusto. I believe this has led to a paralysis in our government at the highest levels. Put yourself in the President's shoes. You don't have time to sift through information sources on your own everyday, and so you rely on your staffers and cabinet officers to tell you what's going on. From State, you hear one thing about WMDs and the war, from the Pentagon you hear something else, from NSC you hear something else, and so forth. As the released PDBs show, the state of our intel services is shockingly bad, and no one part of the government has all or even most of the facts. The war over the war--the war within State and among State and the Pentagon, with CIA siding mostly with State--is filling the Oval Office with smoke. The President relies on his top officers for information, and they're all telling him different things. Whom does he trust? He has been burned in the past by officials resigning and writing damaging tell-alls that the press spins into "proof" that either Bush isn't up to the job or that he led us to war on fraudulent arguments. He probably has current officials threatening to do the same if he acts on something that this official disagrees with. If Bush makes a big deal out of the Jordan WMD attack, for example, CIA will leak to the New York Times that there are problems with Jordan's methods of interrogations, or with some weak spot in the evidence, etc. At critical junctures throughout the war, we have seen damaging leaks designed to force the administration's hand on the issue of the moment. This must surely have made the President gun-shy about making strong public arguments or proposing initiatives related to the war. He has just been burned by his subordinates too many times, and doesn't know which subordinate will burn him next. Hint: Anyone who was there when you showed up in 2001 is likely to burn you. Clinton holdovers have proven to be a major thorn in the President's side.

We're engaged in a post-modern war, and our government is dysfunctional in its approach to it. Our opposition party does not subscribe to the war, thanks mostly to its old associations on the hard left and its heir apparent, a man who was part of the anti-American machine during the last post-modern war. In fact, most of those at the top of the Democrat party today played some role in the old anti-war movement or sympathized with it. Our majority party has a spine of jelly and won't confront the radicals to defeat them.

So we're in more trouble than I think most of us realize. We haven't lost, but we may be on the road to losing.

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Posted by B. Preston on May 12, 2004 10:59 PM
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Kerry and the political forces he represents have slowly poisoned America over the last 30 years, and now we’re being offered the Kool-Aid once again.

As it turns out, the concept of a unique time in history called “post-9/11 America” was a silly mirage for the naive. I used to think those 3,000 Americans died that day to show us the world in utter clarity so we could save ourselves from even worse down the road. Now I realize our great national lesson from 9/11 is going to be reduced to some meaningless bureaucratic findings from Jamie Gorelick’s Kangaroo Commission.

Posted by Chris Regan on May 13, 2004 12:42 AM

I lived through Vietnam and even served at the end of the war. One major difference between then and now is that we were attacked. Back then there was no direct threat if we pulled out. Now there is. We must repeat that over and over. The terrorist will play into our hands because it is who they are. Just when the left starts wringing its hands about how horrible we are some new terrorist atrocity will happen. Israel will be our example. All the wishful thinking and “negotiation” will come to naught because they don’t want to get along with us they want to destroy us.

Posted by Ric Curtis on May 13, 2004 5:24 AM

If it’s any consolation, Bryan, I was up in Massachusetts over the last weekend. During the four days I saw only TWO Kerry bumperstickers. For a native son of the Bay State that’s a pretty poor showing. I realize this is not a scientific poll, but I drew some encouragement from the idea that more Americans “get it” than we sometimes give them credit. It seems that the deck is stacked against us sometimes, with the non-stop caterwauling of the Dems and the lefty press, but that is a mutual admiration society that doesn’t play well with Joe and Jane SixPack, who will be doing the actual voting in November. Have faith BP.

One last point…It sure would be helpful if we could get Fox or some other network to compile a program about the war on terror to date. America needs to see the images that have been suppressed in the past, like people jumping from WTC, the beheadings of Pearl and Berg, etc. We need a strong reminder of who we are fighting and what we’re up against. Too many have chosen to forget.

Posted by JimS on May 13, 2004 8:13 AM

I share some of your pesssimism and already Ric has posted part of a way out of it. You write that the hard-core anti-American left could not be shouted down during the Vietnam period. Ric is right, people need to be reminded over and over what’s really at stake here. And any latter-day Kerry of Baghdad needs to be thoroughly discredited and fact-checked every step of the way.

The mainstream media are carrying the water of the hard-core anti-American left; just look at the newspapers’ frequent choice of the Baghdad prison photo, with the pathetic crew-cutted Iraqi clutching the bars of his prison - a very artful shot designed for maximum moral prickage, and in service of what, exactly? That could be a photo of any POW, American or Iraqi, mistreated or not.

War is awful. We are at war. We are awful. However, if we lose, the people who started the war with us will do even more awful things to us than champ down on a cigarette and smirk while pointing at our genitals. The only way we can lose this war is if we choose to do so.

Any questions?

I don’t disagree with anything any of you have said. I just think we’re choosing to lose this war.

Posted by Bryan on May 13, 2004 8:34 AM

Thanks for such thoughtful commentary. I see Abu Ghraib in a whole new light now.

Posted by Lornkanaga on May 13, 2004 8:43 AM

Chin up there, Buckaroo. It’s true these tactics were deployed successfully in Vietnam but, there were similar efforts in every major conflict we’ve ever been in and, we only lost that one. Let me suggest the single most important variable you left out of your analysis: the propensity of us honorable folks to fall on our own sword.

Vietnam was badly executed by the top political leadership from the get go but, what really lost it was the coup d’etat that unseated the man, Nixon, who was about to successfully end the conflict (albeit, admittedly, in a less than satisfying Korea partition style fashion but, a hell of a lot better than what actually ensued). How was that coup effected? Because Republicans got to feeling all guilty about Watergate and forced their man to resign, rather than circling the wagons and rebuffing the raiding party. Had Nixon showed Clinton’s resolve to resist impeachment, things would never have ended the way they did.

This episode in Abu Ghraib is a bunch of nothing. Yet, conservatives are in a deep funk feeling all guilty for something they didn’t do. I suspect the sexual component may have something to do with it for people who tend, as a group, to be very uptight about such matters.

This just plays into their adversaries’ hands. Liberals don’t care about the sex stuff. In fact, they probably find it a little titillating. But, conservatives already have the knife out aimed at their own gut.

In the same vein, Arabs don’t really care about the abuse. Stuff like that happens every day in their neck of the woods (or sands).

Conservatives are here being attacked with weapons that only exist in their own minds. It’s like in Atlas Shrugged, where the protagonists own rectitude is the weapon used against them. Don’t fall for it. Don’t apologize. Don’t respond to the taunts. Don’t be played for a chump by people who do not think as you do but know how you think.

Posted by Reid on May 13, 2004 8:44 AM

I don’t think WE’RE choosing to lose anything. I think the leftist media are formulating America’s demise even as we speak. They are blind to our every good deed and revel in our shortcomings, few as they are compared to the evil we confront.

From what I’ve seen of the “horrible atrocity pictures” out of Abu Ghraib, that’s Sunday school stuff compared to what I would do to those sons of bitches. Of course, I would say “please” and “thank you” to keep Fatboy Ted Kennedy happy.

AQ overplayed their hand though, in a way that Giap never would’ve.

That beheading.….….murder of Mr. Berg was a brutal reminder of just what we’re fighting, and what a REAL atrocity is.

Posted by shark on May 13, 2004 9:10 AM

Shark and guess what? The left are already hinting that it might have been a set-up by the US (no mention of the Jews yet but we can bet there will be) to distract from the prison over-blown nonsense. I can’t help but notice that the BBC, CBS and ABC have all left out the fact that Berg was Jewish.

I think Shark is right. The searing image from Vietnam was that South Vietnamese general blowing the captured VC’s brains out.

This time it was the other side that provided the searing image.

And, don’t forget the Professor’s admonition:

“If all this coverage is leaving you demoralized, and hopeless, and depressed, let me suggest that this isn’t an accident — it’s the goal.”

Posted by Reid on May 13, 2004 9:29 AM

Yes, I understand, Bryan, and I’m just trying to think strategically and come up with a message simple enough to overcome the media drumbeat.

As you show, the Giap strategy has been shown to be effective. The Vietnam-era response of the US to that strategy, ineffective. We need to stop crying in our beers and come up with a counter to Giap. See my blog for a link to an LGF thread proposing an effective maneuver in the ongoing propaganda war. AQ has left a huge opening with their beheading video. Can the administration act on it?

Bryan - This is an excellent and moving piece. Once again, I am thoroughly impressed with your writing ability and the clarity of your expressiveness. All of what you say makes sense to me. I know it won’t be any consolation to you to hear me say this, but I will insist that liberals (most of them, anyway) want the same end as you do. Speaking for myself, I want to see the end of radical Muslim militancy that has no regard for the dignity of life and the establishment of societies and polities that respect and embrace individual freedom, democracy, and human rights. And though we no doubt envision different ways of getting there, I think there is something worthwhile in that we share the same end.

I know that it is impossible in the span of a blog post to really explore all aspects of the dynamic you mention with regard to how wars are won or lost; but I would like to add something to your fine analysis, if I may. I would agree with you when you speak of Abu Ghraib as Al Qaeda’s lucky break and as our open, bleeding, exploitable wound. But, I think we have to remember that Abu Ghraib is not of Al-Qaeda’s making. It is a self-inflicted wound. And I would even go so far as to say that liberal attitudes and responses to Abu Ghraib have contributed to the dynamic that created this wound and continue to add to the bleeding of the wound, which is (whether one agrees with the violence of war or not) clearly not conducive to the successful conduct and conclusion of the war on behalf of the end (peace and democracy) that we all hope to see. But the whole Abu Ghraib situation is a more complicated thing than just laying blame on the feet of an irresponsible liberal establishment. A comprehensive and more complete assessment of how we gave ourself this wound must also include an exploration and analysis of the bigger culture and environment that made it possible. And by this I mean not only the internal military culture and environment in a period of war that somehow might explain Abu Ghraib’s emergence, though that is certainly a part of the context, but also the larger U.S. cultural and environmental context that includes a growing public fascination with perversion, sadistic voyeurism, instant gratification, an overall desensitization to violence (i.e. Jerry Springer, Boston Globe publication of fake GI rape photos, the OJ trial, the Arnold Schwarzenegger groping story, the Kobe Bryant/Mike Tyson phenomena), and an extreme ideological division in our political culture that teeters, I think, on the edge of a violence directed by American against American.

I guess my point is that the Abu Ghraib wound, al Qaeda’s “lucky break,” is the manifestation of a much more profoundly complex problem within the U.S. in which we all bear some culpability and responsibility. Abu Ghraib, in my mind, is a reflection and a product of a larger fundamental problem within America that doesn’t fall out exclusively along the lines of conservative/liberal political ideology.

Don’t get me wrong: The U.S. is a great country and I believe that what we stand for as a country is noble. And I think that this will win out in the end. And I think that recognizing internal problems and dealing with the painful realities that lead to such self-inflicted wounds is critical and necessary to reach the ends we aspire towards.

Part of the problem is that Bush has made such a huge point of the moral dimension, leaving himself open for all the usual moral-equivalence claptrap. We didn’t do any of that in WWII. Nowadays, because we’re all so focused on psychology and morality, we “remember” that we fought Hitler to free the Jews. Absolute nonsense. We didn’t give a good goddamn about the Jews. We fought Hitler because he was ALIGNED with the Japs, who attacked us. Today we fight Saddam because he is ALIGNED with Osama, who attacked us. That’s the only worthwhile reason to fight such a war. Not to give democracy to the Iraqis, or any of that bullshit.

At this point, lots of Americans are in a mood to get serious. A different president — a Hillary or a Giuliani — could grab onto that cold ruthlessness and run with it.

But I don’t see how Bush can do it. His “compassion” has taken us too far into the squishy territory of morality where only the Left can win, and he has totally failed to push the real and ruthless reasons for fighting.

Posted by ockham on May 13, 2004 10:22 AM

I lived through Viet Nam and was on CU campus during some of the riots. There is a big difference between then and now. Most of the people against this war are my age (with just a sprinkling of youth). Young people are trying to enlist in numbers that are forcing the armed forces to raise their standards. Think about that. In addition Iraqis are starting to take charge themselves Al-Sadr is told by the moderates to get out of town as his army disintegrates, etc.

Sadly I think the warhawks thought this would be short and easy and are now unhappy it isn’t. It took three decades to get genuine democracy in South Korea. What is the saddest part of this is the warhawks in the end appearenly don’t believe in the american people. They think Giap and OBL are right.

Well thanks alot guys.

Posted by David on May 13, 2004 10:25 AM

Jimmy,

The cultural aspects of your point are made clear by the very freaky females involved in the bizarre prison photos. The scandal would probably just be a minor one about psychological pressure without the freaks being involved.

Posted by Chris Regan on May 13, 2004 11:35 AM

David,

We can win the battle in Iraq easy enough, but it’s at home that we’re likely to lose the bigger war if America can’t maintain focus. Don’t forget that we have a poor track record lately:
…for a quarter-century the presumption of the country’s enemies was that those colors did run – they ran from Vietnam, from the downed choppers in the Iranian desert, from Beirut and Mogadishu. Even the successful campaigns – the inconclusively concluded Gulf War and the air-only Kosovo war – seemed designed to avoid putting those colors in the position of having to run.

As Osama saw it, these colors ran from the African embassy bombings, and the Khobar towers, and he pretty much expected them to run from 9/11, too.

A narrow majority of Americans get this: Being seen not to run – or, if you prefer, being seen to show resolve – is now an indispensable objective of US foreign policy. So, when four contractors get lynched and hung off a bridge in Fallujah, West Virginia Democrat Robert Byrd may think it’s time for an “exit strategy,” but most Americans want to see the thugs who did it hunted down and killed…”
Bryan isn’t saying he no longer wants to do this and reverse the post-Vietnam trend, he’s recognizing that we’re losing that determined 9/11 majority to father time and enemy propaganda from within. Hell, many people probably want to stop fighting the war just to shut the caterwauling Democrats up.

The average American doesn’t realize that we’re primarily in an ideological struggle for our lives, and that the military stuff is really just a side issue. We need to expose who, and how strong, the domestic enemy really is, along with the tactics they use, so we can reorganize the fight at home.

Posted by Chris Regan on May 13, 2004 12:01 PM

I argue that in the long run this current phase will not affect the end of the war, if narrowly measured as “an end to mass casualty attacks upon the USA”.

If the GWB “kinder and gentler” “use the meme of freedom and democracy” war currently being played out in Iraq fails … we’re still going to win the war. A nuke or three unleashed on US cities, and we will impose our own nuclear Final Solution to the problem that Islam has presented the West since its founding. We will also lose our souls in the process, and for this and many other reasons we are morally obligated to attempt what we are now doing (I don’t think we have the “cultural genes” for pure Empire).

“Wretchard’s” blog at http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/ provides the best commentary on this, the general and specific shape of our enemy, and cunning analysis of current events; his track record is quite good.

Posted by Harold on May 13, 2004 12:22 PM

Bryan’s analysis of the internal enemy we have deal with is dead on. What I see as the major difference between the VC and AlQ is this- Gen. Giap didn’t have the technology available to him to strike a blow at the US like Al-Q does. He didn’t have the motivation either, all he wanted to do was defeat us in his ‘hood. Al-Q wants to make the world safe for Sharia, and won’t stop until either they get what they want, or somebody gets them dead. That’s the big difference. The scary part comes when, as Bryan explains, we politically-correct ourselves into a defensive crouch instead of taking the war to Al-Q. That’s when the big hurt comes here, and the Really Big Hurt lands on Muslim populations around the globe, starting with Mecca. Or do you guys think that your fellow Americans won’t be screaming for that to happen if hundreds of thousands of their fellow citizens dies in simultaneous nuke strikes of 4 or 5 US (and maybe Euro) cities? Even a waffler like Kerry couldn’t avoid giving the “go” sign to that response, but I think we have a better chance of avoiding that with Bush & Rummy at the wheel.

You pessimism is fueled by the very internal enemy you decry.

Where is your information coming from? 98% of the media IS the enemy—they will do whatever it takes to undermine Bush and get their side back in power. One percent of the media is trying to be fair and balanced, but they still fear the wrath of the big boys and don’t go after then with the zeal that they should.

The remaining one percent is the web, the only place where a lie can’t stand for long because of the endless army of amatuer fact-checkers and gotcha journalists just waiting for the break that’ll get them into the big leagues.

It is best, at this time to assume that anything in the mainstream media is a lie—particularly support for their positions.

The fact that they have been forced to admit that the American people don’t want Rummmy out—or that Bush leads Kerry at all screams that the actual evidence refuting their point is so massive that to ignore it would make them look worse than admitting it does.

Posted by jack on May 13, 2004 12:58 PM

Spot on analysis and exactly my thoughts - but there are a couple of key differences between the Vietnam era and now, that I don’t think the enemy, nor our enemy enablers in this country, have quite figured out yet - and that is the power of the internet, the power of real information in the hands of real people. It is folks like YOU, like LGF, like InstaPundit, etc that ARE making a difference in the part of this war that is being fought right here in our country against terrorist enablers - and we need to keep at it even when it gets so frustrating. We have repeatedly denied the libs and leftists their talking points to the chagrin of the leftist press - the 9/11 commission, the Clarke book, the O’Neill book, the mindboggling stupidity that comes out of the mouth of Kennedy and other windbags who want to defeat America. The leftists and libs haven’t quite figured out why things are different now - it was so easy in 1967 when the press filtered everything we “knew”. The terrorists are befuddled by it because they studied us well, and can’t figure out why it isn’t working. Al-Sadr quotes al-Kennedy and he “knows” it should have a huge impact here in this country, and I can just imagine him and the Iranian mullahs scratching their heads trying to figure out what is different, why doesn’t it work like in Vietnam?

When I watched the video, I saw Koppel, the 60 minutes news team, Seymour Hersch, and a bunch of other terrorist enabling pundits holding down Mr Berg. I saw an endless stream of granstanding 9/11 commission members and Rumsfeld “grillers” blathering their unintelligible nonsense for the 3 or 4 minutes the papers were being read. Then I saw Ted Kennedy hack away at Bergs neck for what seemed like an eternity, and hold his head up. That’s what I saw - and the rest of the leftsist and libs in this country need to see that too.

Am I worried? Yes - there are a lot of short-focused people in this country, but I worry more from the aspect that bin Laden and al-Qaeda are but a pimple on the ass of the monster that is Islamism. Folks need to get a better perspective on what this is all about. Islamism is “Communism on Steroids” - an ideology powered by the unassailable, passionate power of religious zealotry. Nothing stupider in this world than someone who gets it in his head that he can kill in the name of his &deity.

Keep on keepin on - it IS making a difference.

Posted by Bill in AZ on May 13, 2004 1:30 PM

Bill in AZ - I just don’t know what to make of your alternative “vision” of Berg’s murder and his murderers. You don’t see terrorist violence against Americans. All you see is American violence against Americans. What accolades and medals of honor would you give the patriot who assassinates his fellow Americans Koppel, Hersch, and Kennedy? I can only imagine the outrage (justifiable, I’d add) if I were to write exactly what you wrote above in your second paragraph and instead substituted the names Limbaugh, Rumsfeld, and Bush for Koppel, Hersch, and Kennedy. I find your “alternative vision” as completely unacceptable discourse. All I saw was a bunch of crazed, fanatical, murderous terrorists commit an uspeakably sad and inhuman atrocity on an innocent American.

Thank you, Jimmy, well put. Bill might be reacting to some of the moonbats out there trying to make out as though Bush and Rumsfeld committed the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, but both views are equally wrong.

I agree with your analysis of Vietnam, but disagree with you on today’s situation. Here are some reasons and things you failed to properly address, particularly the roll of monopolization of media for manipulation of the masses:

1. The mass media was the only source for Vietnam demoralization. I would say Cronkite was more responsible for Vietnam defeat than anyone else. He would not have that power today. Demoralization can only be acomplished by a monopoly on the media. It won’t happen today. We have: a) Internet b) Talk radio c) Cable news like FOX news, etc. d) bloggers, etc.

2. Therefore since the moonbat lefties can no longer control the media totally, their influence has declined over the past decade considerably. Result?: The mainstream media has “overplayed” their hand time and time again and are showing themselves to be the crackpots that they are. Ted Kennedy has shown what a true assblowhard that he is. And people know it.

3. America is much more educated on issues they want to be then in the past. If you want to leearn a subject, you simply google it, read an hour or 2, and come away with an understanding of the issue. Wasn’t like that in Vietnam. People are simply smarter nowadays.

4. Yes we were attacked first. Worse than Pearl Harbor I might add. People haven’t forgot.

Look, there are a lot of friggin MOONBATS today in America, but America is slowly undergoing a revolution in the OPPOSITE (see 2002 congress elections) direction and the reason is because mainstreal media no longer has us at their whim. I could write a long column on all my supporting arguments but you get my point.

More and more Americans are simply “opting” out of the moonbat influenced environment. However they are not opting out of the polls. They will vote like never before. Take heart that the young moonbats won’t vote en masse.

I see this decade as the left wing’s final screech at power. It will be unpleasnat to watch blowhards like Kennedy and Kerry badmouth fellow Americans and give aid to the enemy, but the only way to deafeat a moonbat is public discourse is to just let the moonbat rage and expose himself/herslef to the sensible Americans and they will turn away from it.

Bush is gonna romp in November. Why? Because Bush is the first President who WHOLEHEARTEDLY believes that the lefty mainstream media does NOT represent nor talk for the American public.

And he is right.

That and I heard him quietly say a few weeks back that “Iran will be dealt with”.

To sum it all up, this blog is helping win the war, do not get down and at the first setback we stuble across. And I wouldn’t even call it a setback.…

Posted by Eric on May 13, 2004 2:43 PM

Jimmy Huck - the premise that I got out of Bryans excellent piece is that there are two fronts to the War on Terrorism. We are doing pretty well with the one in various theaters around the world with our military, our aid, our support. The other front is here in our own back yard. By your comments earlier in this thread, you seem to be pretty much in lock-step with what the mainstream media wants you to think. The words and phrases you use “self-inflicted wound”, “Abu Ghraib situation is a more complicated situation”, “A comprehensive and more complete assessment of how we gave ourself this wound must also include an exploration and analysis of the bigger culture and environment that made it possible” - this all makes it sound HUGE, which is what the mainstream press wants you to think. It’s the only thing they have right now, and it’s the only decent thing that has come along in a long time and they will milk it for all it is worth. Go!, run with it, but don’t look back because there aren’t likely to be many people running afer you. The evening news commentators tonight will be saying “and our lead story tonight, Abu Ghraib, uh, wait a minute, don’t go… yoohoo… uh, our lead story… yoohoo…” and there will be fewer and fewer people listening because they want to know what is really going on in the world.

Abu Ghraib is a turd, a truly smelly turd that has embarrassed us all - but it has been laying there for months, had already been dealt with, and no one made a peep about it until it became something to defeat Bush with - now it’s the biggest story in weeks if the media can just keep it there. The problem is perspective. As a truly smelly turd, it is but a fly speck on a manure pile at a stockyard when compared to atrocities past, present, and future created by our real enemies in the War on Terrorism.

Mainstream media actively supresses any good news coming out of Iraq, highlights the negative, and actively creates negative when no other can be found (why didn’t Koppel read the names of those lost in Afghanistan?). Even you must be able to see this as it is pretty obvious - especially after wandering through the blogosphere for a while.

Substitute Rush, Rumsfeld, Bush? How would you even get there? They aren’t trying to defeat America’s war on terrorism on our own soil - they are trying to fight it on both fronts.

Medals? Hmmm, there SHOULD be some blogosphere medals because Kennedy, Koppel, Hersch get shot down (assassinated isn’t the right term) pretty much daily in the blogosphere. Bryan ought to get one for his article.

Posted by Bill in AZ on May 13, 2004 4:10 PM

Bill in AZ - Well, what I got out of Bryan’s excellent piece (at least we agree on this!) is that Abu Ghraib (and not just the abuse itself, but all that followed in the media, blogosphere, etc.) somehow represents a critical moment in the war in Iraq and the broader war against terrorism. So, given that even Bryan identifies this moment as a watershed moment, I don’t think I’m out of place to emphasize it, too, and explore it more deeply. I tried to give what I thought to be a more complete picture of the whole thing. And it is a uniquely “U.S.” moment in that it involves and questions the behaviors and values of U.S. citizens, media institutions, military personnel, public officials, etc. You call it a “smelly turd” - but the fact that it’s OUR “smelly turd” is what I’m commenting on — and I want to try to understand how it came to pass. And that’s all I was trying to do.

I do agree with you that there will be few people listening to it in a few weeks’ time, but not because they want to know “what is really going on in the world” but rather because they want to know who the next American Idol is going to be and what kind of juicy details are going to surface in the Kobe Bryant rape trial.

Mainstream media also tends to suppress good news period. When was the last time you looked at your local evening news broadcast and found yourself inspired by what you saw? It’s the media’s proclivity to want to focus on the negative and the scandal because it sells to the American public and caters to their demand. And this has nothing to do with ideology.

There’s a big and important difference between then and now.

The draft.

Back then, lots of folks joined the anti-war movement in hopes that it would prevent them from getting shanghaied and sent to the jungle. Failing that, their professed beliefs would be justification for running away or evading service.

The draft was a mistake, and it’s one we’re fortunately not repeating (so far). The military has more volunteers than it can handle (or rather, more volunteers than it’s authorized to handle, which is something that should have been corrected two years ago), the volunteer troops are enthusiastic about their mission and aren’t interested in those who “support” them by making them come home, and the other side isn’t going to pad their ranks with people looking to get out of service.

Doesn’t mean the other side’s completely powerless, but a source of their recruits has been cut off. (Let’s keep it that way!)

Our friends on the left like to crow about how “they” won WWII for us. Sometimes I wonder if they were enthusiastic for that war mainly because we were fighting alongside the Soviets…

I believe that Osama bin Laden underestimated our both response and our effectiveness. He didn’t believe we would actually invade Afghanistan, or that we could topple the Taliban once we had. He believed we might send a few missiles his way, perhaps a carrier group to bombard his camps, but no boots on the ground. He’d watched our 1990s conflicts in Kosovo and Iraq, and he’d forced our pullout of Somalia. He believed we were too soft to fight. He had no clue that we would also invade Iraq.

I am sure he had no clue at all… and I am sure he was very suprised that we would do such a foolish thing. But dont you know Osama is just tickled pink that we got ourselves into this mess? Bush’s rushed and opportunistic invasion of Iraq under the cover of 9-11 has given bin Laden’s organization a wonderful opportunity to strike at US interests without leaving home. If your goal is to kill large numbers of western infidels then what would be better than having 200,000 of them move in next door. Organizing a strike at americans half way around the world is so much more difficult than operating on your own turf.

I pray that we don’t have to learn via that experience or something similar. But I’m not optimistic anymore. We’re about to let the fools run the show, and we’ll pay for it.

uh… your very justified in our pessimism… the fools ARE running the show. By invading a totally unrelated country for political and personal reasons George Bush has made it much easier for Al Qaeda to accomplish its goals. From Al Qaeda’s perspective, its the best thing that could have possibly happened. Instead of using our military as a police force to rid the world of terrorist criminals, we have placed these brave folks in harms way and turned ourselves into the bad guys in the process.

I am one of the more conservative people I know… But I have never supported the NeoCon agenda of world domination. If you read the writings of these people from the mid 90’s, they have been looking for an excuse to use our military to dominate the region. These blood thirsty NeoCons who have turned the CRIME of 9-11 into a racial and religious war of conquest. They have to be stopped.

We need to face up to the fact that we may have already lost this war. We need to think about the pro’s and cons of withdrawal. Getting out now may not feel good, but raising the pot in a no limit game when you have a bad hand is disasterous. I know it would make us feel better to use our overwhelming military to escalate this thing. But what would be in the best interests of the USA, the future of our children and our place in world history?

At what point does our escalation turn this from a relatively small regional conflict into a full blown world war? There is talk of expanding the conflict to Iran and Syria. Is that the best move we can make or does it make more sense to back out and cut our losses. By making the wrong moves now, this thing can become a world war when china and india get involved.… and at that point, we will find out if our president has screwed up our relationships with europe so badly that they do not honor their commitments to Nato. As it stands, George is liable to say, “bring it on!” Its going to take years to recover from this dorks mistakes already. If we escalate this thing, then its going to take even longer.

Our stupidity, bravado, ignorance and arrogance have put us in a situation where it may be the US, england and Israel against the whole world. This could easily escalate to a much wider theatre. The Islamic world is enormous and if we chase terrorist by invading countries which seem to be supporting them it may lead to a very wide battlefield. With Bush in office for 4 more years we may end up being at war with unlikely moslem dominated places like Millasia and Chad. Is that what you really want?

The World has become tremendously populated and thanks to US and others arms industry, totally armed to the teeth. You may say “but chad and milasia are nothing!” However, today both have the population and armament level of germany in world war one. There is not a place on the planet that is not armed and dangerous and if we give them a good enough reason they will all start shooting at us… especially if we dont have all our allies to back us up. This is not the 1800 when a few well armed English soldiers could dominate an unarmed sparsely populated colony. Today, all these places have millions of people and millions of guns.

Today most of them dont really care much about america at all beyond a vague jealousy of our wealth. But that wont be the case when we start invading their neighbors, attacking tribal and ethnic allies and trying to impose our will on their region. Remember Laos and Cambodia?

The downside of this mess is way. way, way down. but we have the opportunity to get rid of Bush and begin the slow and painful process of apologizing to the world and moving away from all out war.

I cant believe our country is willing to rush headlong into a world war I style destruction of the western civilization just because of a few thousand muslim extremists were able to kill a couple thousand Americans. Think about it… we have nothing to gain in this and everything to loose.

What does it look like if we go to all out war and win? And if we choose that path, how do we keep it from escalating?

What does it look like if we back off a bit? What are the down sides to backing off all the way and just going home? What would be so bad about declaring our job of toppling the tyrant Saddam Hussain finished and just heading home?

Which world do you want your children to grow up in?

Why are you advocating the worst possible future for them?

Posted by winterbear on May 14, 2004 8:59 PM
What does it look like if we back off a bit? What are the down sides to backing off all the way and just going home? What would be so bad about declaring our job of toppling the tyrant Saddam Hussain finished and just heading home?

Winterbear, that you would even ask such a question shows that you would not comprehend the answer so, I won’t even make the effort. I just hope the majority of Americans do not have such excremental matter for brains.

Posted by Reid on May 14, 2004 10:34 PM

Gee Mr. Reid, thanks for the enlightening and informative post. I am so glad us poo poo brains have people like you to take care of us.

Im just glad that this blog has polite people like you around to encourage first time posters like me to try to contribute to this community.

However, I would love to hear your answer to any of the questions I asked…

WinterBear

Posted by winterbear on May 15, 2004 12:53 AM

Winterbear makes some valid points you would do well to address. People in Europe are rapidly approaching a point where the whole idea of us sharing any kind of alliance with the US becomes too repugnant. Don’t let Blair or the Polish leader give you false comfort, these leaders are still lagging far behind the popular mood, but their successors will have to follow, as in Spain. If you think you can treat anyone who won’t bow to your will with the contemptuous brutality that your Israeli buddies treat Gazans, then you will be doing it alone. They’ll be no support, no NATO, no ‘help’ in “the war on terror”. Have you any idea how reviled and mocked your country has become.…? Here’s one of the more thoughtful, less redneck-mocking pieces from the British press this weekend - by an American I presume! You’ve lost. Face it and get over it.

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The United States and Britain have an Iraq crisis on their hands, but the US has something worse, a crisis of thought and assumption in the mainstream intellectual community over foreign policy. The second crisis involves much more than the derailment of US policy in Iraq. It concerns what has been done and said to redefine America’s place in global society and, by implication, in contemporary history, since 11 September - after which, as Americans said, nothing could ever be the same.

A ‘new America’ was said to have emerged, but it would be better to say an old one found new empowerment. It was recently described by former US ambassador to France Felix Rohatyn as ‘more radical and more committed than ever to the need for unchallenged military dominance. It is more individualistic than Europe, more religious, conservative and patriotic … [These factors] will influence everything America does from now on, both in its foreign and its domestic policies.’

This is undoubtedly true, but this ‘new’ America amazingly resembles the isolationist and xenophobic America between 1920 and 1941. What is new is that it has become the most heavily-armed nation on Earth and believes it is, and should remain, number one.

Like pre-1941 America, it includes a strong streak of populist anti-European sentiment. What’s new is that many political intellectuals and political leaders are anti-European too, annoyed by Europe’s pretension to offer a valid alternative to what America considers its manifest destiny, and preoccupied by the threat that the EU might become a serious international rival.

Despite everything some Americans say today about their future being tied to a dynamic new Asia, Europe remains the society against which the US measures itself. Americans know Europe as the society against which the US rebelled and, in the American mind, superseded.

A comparison with Britain reassures it; one with continental Europe upsets it. (It was the opposite in pre-1941 America; popular sentiment then was probably more anti-British than anti-continental.) Tony Blair has played the reassurance role with intuition and success, although the benefits to Britain remain in doubt.

The persistent note of denigration and condescension in talk about Europe (most recently, as a waning ‘Venus’ to an American ‘Mars’), has to be understood as expression of an anxiety two centuries old and too deep to be acknowledged.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Americans produced several theories about their new position as sole superpower. The most popular one said that history had come to an end in the American political and economic system, all other possibilities exhausted or discredited. The US was history’s culmination, the system the rest of the world had to adopt. The rest was detail.

This was an American Marxism, a dialectical interpretation of history as having been a march from the Neolithic cave to US military and moral superpower - and inevitable hegemony.

The ‘realistic’ version of this progressive dialectic, the one favoured by Republicans, said that the US should use power as well as persuasion to hustle the others along for their own good. This was held essential in the case of those who found the idea of an Americanised destiny less alluring than it seems to Americans. The Iraqis currently benefit from such attention.

In 2001, the main reason the New York and Washington attacks produced so traumatic an effect in the US was that they defied the notion of America as the morally righteous fulfilment of history. Americans were abruptly made to see themselves as victims of what they interpreted as the hate and envy of people who obstinately refused to acknowledge (as George Bush angrily complained) ‘how good we are’.

Americans were under attack by enemies who not only were multiple and elusive, malevolent and inventive, but who asserted their own outrageous claim to moral superiority over Americans, as well as a divine mandate of their own. The war on terror, with its adjunct war in Iraq, was meant to reconfirm this pre-eminence. Both, of course, have done the opposite. They have demonstrated the inability of badly overextended military power even to impose stability on the two countries in the developing world which the US has invaded.

The prospect of stabilising and reforming what Washington now calls the ‘Greater Middle East’ seems slight, to put it politely. Terror has multiplied, rather than been disarmed. Now an American moral disaster has been revealed, composed of torture, secret prisons and international illegality. No one in Washington anticipated this. Certainly not the neo-conservatives, the most aggressive promoters of a ‘righteous’ imperialism, who drove the march to war in Iraq. They have dropped from sight.

The mainstream commentators and foreign policy experts never imagined defeat in Iraq. The latest American election-year books on foreign policy are entirely concerned with managing the challenges of success and hegemony.

Nearly all express a calm confidence that America has entered a new stage in its relations with the rest of the world, produced by the singularity of American power and the superiority of its conceptions of how the world should be ordered (not to speak of the mandate confided to America, and particularly to the present administration, by the English-speaking deity).

A year ago, when these books were drafted, few in the policy community and the corps of commentators, and no one in the Bush government, expressed any doubt that American military power was invincible; that it rested on moral foundations that are beyond serious reproach; that pacification, control and reform of Iraq and the Greater Middle East by the US and its allies was both feasible and desirable; and that ‘the war on terror’ was finite, intellectually and morally coherent - and winnable. War in Iraq was even expected to turn a profit since, as Paul Wolfowitz noted, the country was ‘floating on oil’.

Most warned about where the world would find itself if America failed to lead all the rest. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, argued that the US has a right to ‘more security than other countries’, since without America’s worldwide military deployment, there would be chaos in the Middle East, war in Asia, ‘pell-mell’ rearmament in Europe, a rush by Europeans to make ‘special arrangements’ with Russia, and rekindled ‘fears of German power and historically rooted national animosities’.

Now the assumed decadence of Venus Europe, and its inevitable submission to the American Mars, has lost plausibility. The confident notion that a ‘new’ Atlanticist Europe would replace ‘old’ Europe disappeared with Spain’s unapologetic withdrawal from Iraq and Polish intimations that its commitment was not unlimited. The faithful Blair suffers grave domestic consequences from having plunged down a blind alley in Washington.

The war on terror was founded on an edifice of illusions that virtually no one in the US policy community questioned. That has collapsed. Since they really were illusions about the US itself, the collapse has internal implications.

The country suffered a disruptive and doubt-filled domestic aftermath of the defeat in Vietnam for more than a decade. The war in Iraq was supposed to give the US the triumph it was denied in Vietnam. Instead, it has doubled the defeat. The consequences of this, abroad as well as at home, are unforeseeable.

William Pfaff, The Observer ——————————————

Posted by Waynetta on May 16, 2004 11:39 AM

Some of you folks should re-read this post. US defeat is not a done deal, and you Europeans should think about the consequences before gleefully wishing for one. Ironically, you will be the first to pay for it—your unassimilated Muslim populations seething with anti-Semitism and Islamicist propaganda will turn on you before making their way here, by which time we will have finally learned our lessons and will be ready to face them down for good. You’re the front lines, Europe, or will be if we have to bug out of Iraq prematurely. Britain and France particularly have much more to lose in Iraq than the US does. We may lose face and some worldwide respect, but we’ll be around long after the Islamicists force you in Europe to kneel. And if the last couple of years are any guide, kneel you will.

But as I say, US defeat in Iraq is by no means a done deal, but I do see us making some serious mistakes there and I believe the war over the war within our own government could cost us the actual war. Again ironically, the more we act like Europeans with their self-doubt and their angst about every little sensitivity, the closer we come to defeat. We should just fight hard, bring the Iraqis up by their chins and train them to fight off the terrorists, and slowly work our way out as Iraq becomes self-sufficient and self-governing.

Posted by bp on May 16, 2004 11:44 PM
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