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Nagin Gets Medieval

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin:

“Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it’s destroyed and put stress on this country,” Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.

If we’re reckoning God’s wrath in body counts and national stress, then God is less mad at America than a lot of other countries. We’ve lost a couple thousand in Iraq and another 1200 or so as a result of Katrina. The Asian tsunami killed off 250,000. So by Ray’s noggin, God is madder at Asia than He is at America. The last time I checked, very very few Asian troops are in Iraq under false pretenses, or any pretenses at all—they’re just not in Iraq.

Let’s look at a couple more body counts, just to try and square up Ray’s logic. Whenever there’s an earthquake in Iran, they can count on losing about 25,000. Same for Turkey and Mexico and a few other countries. Heck, the Kobe quake in Japan back in the 1990s destroyed most of that city and killed 5,000. Even that’s more than we have lost in Iraq and Katrina combined.

So by Ray’s reasoning, God is madder at all those other countries than He is at America. Maybe he should stop to wonder why that might be the case. Freeing 50 million people from brutal tyranny is no small thing.

The sad fact is, Nagin has joined most of his fellow Democrats (and, to be fair, Pat Robertson) in some pre-medieval thinking. You heard it from the left right after 9-11, in the Barbara Kingslover “we had it coming” mantra that was at the time outrageous but is now lefty mainstream. The old medieval mind sought direct causes in human behavior for all maladies and disasters. For every bad thing or sickness, there must be a human failure at the root. That thinking is against all scientific thinking, and goes back a long way, to the first biblical book ever written, the Book of Job. Job had quite a few disasters befall him in succession, and his pals pointed the fickle finger of blame right back at Job. It was the first recorded instance of blaming the victim. The balance of that book, which is more than 5,000 years old and was probably written before Genesis, is intended to refute that kind of thinking and get us to, among other things, stop blaming the victim. God Himself actually weighs in on the debate, in order to smack down victim blaming as an unimpeachable witness. This was a long time before the ACLU decided to drive God from the entire planet.

So Nagin wants to blame the victim. Unfortunately for him, that can cut in a way he won’t like. Let’s say God is mad at New Orleans instead of the entire US (since, after all, Katrina didn’t destroy the entire US, just New Orleans). Maybe God is mad at the debauchery that is a regular feature of New Orleans life. Maybe God is mad at generation after generation of graft and corruption that have been a fixture of New Orleans and Louisiana politics. Maybe God is mad at the voodoo and witchcraft that permeate New Orleans’ spiritual underbelly. Maybe this, maybe that. Maybe God is mad that the levee board let shoddy workmanship pass muster year after year, and that the levee board itself was nothing more than one more political football, or that New Orleans essentially had no plan to deal with a disaster that had been foreseen for decades. Maybe God destroyed New Orleans, but spared the rest of the country, because New Orleans was just too corrupt to allow to keep going.

Look, I don’t think God destroyed New Orleans because He was mad at it or the US. I think that that’s primitive thinking best left to the mullahs and the witch doctors, and should be beneath a mayor of a major American city. I think a hurricane blew in and did what hurricanes do. But if Nagin wants to go around invoking God’s name in all this, well, he might not like where that leads. God has much more reason to be mad at Ray Nagin than at the US or George Bush.

UPDATE: I missed blogging on the “chocolate city” remark. WND caught it, though.

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Posted by B. Preston on January 16, 2006 9:15 PM
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Sounds like Nagin goes to Robertson’s church. They both need to stuff a sock in it!

Nagin also said that New Orleans will be a “Chocolate City” again. Maybe that was the problem to begin with. I mean, chocolate melts in your mouth. Why? Because your mouth is wet. With all that rain and water, is it any surprise that a city made of chocolate was demolished?

Perhaps if they rebuild the city to include a chewy caramel center…

Posted by Scott on January 16, 2006 10:41 PM

There’s no doubt that Nagin is a left wing loon (or doing his best to impersonate one) and being of a different denomination than Robertson I certaintly don’t recognize him as one to speak on God’s behalf but, to say that it’s medevial thinking to say that God would use (or allow) disaster to befall people because he is unhappy with them is to show astounding ignorance of scripture. Remember that little story about the flood??? This isn’t to say that all disasters/personal suffering is the result of God’s anger because we’ve somehow displeased him; as stated, Job is a perfect example where this isn’t the case. Nevertheless, when people and nations begin drifting further and further into unrighteousness - and one can say NO was certaintly on this track and has been for awhile — God will attempt to call them back. By kind invitation and entreaty first but, if necessary, with stronger and more drastic measures if necessary; ironically enough, this is usually of man’s own making (as is certaintly the case in NO). Is this what happened at NO? Certaintly not for me to say. But to state that this kind of thinking is medevial is simply scripturally ignorant

Posted by Clint on January 16, 2006 11:27 PM

Read the post a little more carefully, Clint. I’m saying that ascribing, automatically, sin as a cause of a natural disaster is medieval.

By Nagin’s logic, shouldn’t God have sent his most powerful hurricane to destroy Texas? That one mostly fizzled out. Why would he punish black voters in New Orleans when they didn’t vote for Bush and hence the war?

I think Chuck Schumer and Hillary should demand an independent council to investigate God’s inaccuracies (they’ll probably find the Vatican is getting kickbacks from Haliburton)

Posted by Tom B on January 17, 2006 12:10 AM

Actually, what you said in your conclusion is, “Look, I don’t think God destroyed New Orleans because He was mad at it or the US. I think that that’s primitive thinking best left to the mullahs and the witch doctors, and should be beneath a mayor of a major American city.” I don’t see the word automatically in there anywhere nor would I have concluded you were implying that people shouldn’t automatically make the assumption that bad things happen because God is punishing them. That is a statement I can agree with but that is not a statement you made. Therefor my point stands.

Posted by Clint on January 17, 2006 1:24 AM

Don’t get snippy with me, pal. Your point falls.

Taking up the spirit of your own posts, Clint, what’s the deal with “…and being of a different denomination than Robertson I certaintly don’t recognize him as one to speak on God’s behalf.…”?

Glad you’ve found the only “denomination” appointed by God to speak on His behalf; too bad about His rejection of “denominations” other than yours, though, isn’t it?

And by the way, just which “denomination” is it to which God is currently revealing his specific purposes of judgement on mankind in specific events of human experience?

Posted by Levans on January 17, 2006 9:52 AM

Maybe God is mad at New Orleans for electing Ray Nagin…

Well, Bryan, I have to admit … Nagin certainly gave one up to you this time. There is nothing any honest person can do but to admit that Nagin’s comments were not the comments of a person of sound mind. Why he made such a kooky speech is simply beyond my comprehension. But I will take issue with Clint’s characterization of Nagin as a “left wing loon.” Loony his comments might have been, but left-wing Nagin ain’t. And he isn’t really right-wing, either. He’s kind of a Ross Perot character by my estimation.

But, what’s also interesting to note about Nagin’s speech is that most of it was a criticism of the black population’s failure to assume responsibility for its own problems: black-on-black crime, broken-down family structure, etc. Take out the Godly retribution remarks and the chocolate city remarks, and you have a speech that, Republicans would be hailing as a bold and brave move by a black mayor in front of a black crowd during an MLK,Jr. day celebration to call black people to some kind of personal responsibility for their own lives.

Hey! Let’s look at earthquakes in northern China. Everytime a quake hits there, we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of casualties. I guess Bhudda gets pissed off a lot about what’s happening in Mao’s paradise!

Posted by Mescalero on January 17, 2006 10:57 PM
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