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Bloggers Buying Guns

First Jeff Goldstein mentioned it was on the list after Dr. Psycho threatened his kids. Now The Jawa Report’s founder and head dude, Dr. Rusty Shackleford, is sufficiently creeped out by the Seattle shootings that he now realizes that hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Vinnie has set up a comments thread for gun-buying advice there for poor Dr. Shackleford, whom I guess was one of those academic libertarians who don’t personally own a gun or a bong but like the idea of them. Personally, I thnk this is a brilliant srategy since everyone wants to give people advice on guns and he will get links and comments a-plenty. Including mine. My advice below the jump.

A lot of people well versed in these things are advising Rusty to get AR15 variants or semi-auto pistols, and position several guns strategically around the house. They emphasize using your pistol to fight your way to your rifle, armoring your house, and all kinds of stuff. They may be right, but their advice sounds a lot like some of the advice I was geting about computers—too much of a radical change. The guy’s buying a gun, not a tactical worldview.

Rusty should get a .38 revolver, or a .357 revolver and use .38’s in it. Don’t get a tiny one but do get one small enough that you can stick it in your belt or your glove box if you think there might be trouble. If the gun is too big and bulky it will get left behind when you need it. When you don’t use it it stores out of the way, unlike a big ugly pump-action Mossberg. A revolver is easy to operate; when the chips are down you need only operate the trigger to make it go bang. No safeties, no decocker lever, just a steady squeeze. You can learn how to use it in an afternoon. It’s powerful enough to stop a fight on a solid hit, but the recoil is mild enough that your wife won’t mind trying a few shots with it.

There are better and more powerful weapons. But if this one is handy and cheap and easy to use and easy to practice with, it might make a better tool over the long term than a more expensive or more sophisitcated pistol.

If I were in the market for a single self-defense gun today, but pretty new to guns, I’d probably look for one of these. Used. Ain’t paying no six hundred sixty bucks for it.

UPDATE: Robert in the comments suggests a K-frame Smith&Wesson .38 instead of the small J-Frame I linked to. That might be a better choice both because the extra weight will control recoil better and you get an extra round—six instead of five. On the other hand, that 3-inch barreled Smith is just sweet.

And any pistol you buy that’s made out of steel (maybe with some aluminum) is going to have a great sentimental value to your kids and grandkids. It’s worth getting good ones—by Colt, Smith and Wesson, or Ruger, especially, for the revolvers—since you will ideally be investing in an heirloom.

By the way, I didn’t mean to denigrate training and planning in this post. Since I live in California, I have an earthquake plan; since I live in the real world, period, I have a “bad guy in the house” plan. Just common sense to think about how you will react to dangerous situations. I do think it’s unrealistic to expect most people to alter their lives too much around these possibilities. A .38 revolver you know how to use is a cheap and reasonable first step toward making your house safer.

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Posted by SeeDubya on July 30, 2006 5:00 AM
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I’m the “Robert” who recommended a .38 revolver on the Jawa blog, so I agree with your choice and your reasoning for same. I’d prefer he get a larger K-frame Model 64 Smith, the small J-frame Model 60 kicks a little harder than the K-frame. If his wife is to use the gun, however, the smaller J-frame may fit her hand better.

Good post.

Posted by Robert on July 30, 2006 8:33 AM

I currently have two guns, a Glock 9mm semi-automatic and a Ruger GP100 357-magnum double-action revolver. The Glock is a compact 30 and makes an excellent concealed handgun, since it can be worn unobtrusively. It fits well in my hand, is extremely accurate, and with one in the chamber and two full clips can fire 21 rounds in quick succession. I am buying several more clips at the next gun show however.

The Ruger is a kill gun. It is heavier and a bit unwieldy, but with practice it is a superior gun for self-defense. It does not jam, which is always a danger with any semi-automatic, and makes a really big hole in whatever is shot with it. One 357 round in the chest will kill or disable any man. With a quick-loader, a double-action revolver can fire 12 rounds easily.

Ideally, I would carry both of these guns—the Glock in a shoulder holster and the Ruger in a hip holster. With an extra clip and a quick-loader, that makes for 33 rounds of deadly fire, more than enough for most situations.

For home defense, I highly recommend a 12-guage riot shotgun. This is the absolute best gun for close-range urban fighting. It will not miss and will kill or severely disable an invader with one shot. I also recommend loading the first shell with rock salt. That way if the invader is a drunk friend or neighbor, you won’t kill him accidentally. You will however make damn sure he never makes the mistake of breaking into your home again. If the invader is a criminal, he will definitely suffer before you kill him.

That said, I do not recommend anyone buy a gun without attending a gun safety and training class. If your state allows a concealed handgun license, definitely get one. And always remember the three rules of firearms:

1. Never draw your weapon—and never, ever put your finger on the trigger—unless you intend to shoot it.

2. Never shoot someone unless you intend to kill him.

3. If you shoot someone, kill him.

Also, if you do decide to purchase a handgun or rifle, definitely join the NRA. If you are ever involved in a shooting situation, their lawyers will represent you and defend your rights.

Posted by GawainsGhost on July 30, 2006 10:20 AM

If, like most of us, you live in an urban/suburban area, cool it with the magnums and rifles. Bullets can penetrate what you shoot. Putting a hole through a bad guy and your own child is not a good trade off. The .38 or even a 28 guage shotgun with medium/small shot is all most people would ever need.

Posted by MarkD on July 30, 2006 10:50 AM

Why not a smaller caliber then? Say, a .22?

It seems to me that pretty much any bullet will disable a would-be killer, right?

Or does that go back to the notion of only shoot when shooting to kill?

Anything less than a .38 Special with +P’s lacks adequate stopping power. A .22 rimfire won’t stop any real fight.

Rusty—

A .22 will kill somebody-often hours or days after you shoot them. But unless you hit somebody just right in the head it won’t stop a fight. There was a story from Oklahoma a few years back where an escaped con kidnapped an older couple in their minivan. The husband fished out a .22 from under the seat and shot the guy four or five times in the chest, eventually causing his lung to collapse.

The perforated bad guy then threw the old guy to the pavement, put his own gun on the old guy’s forehead, and pulled the trigger—and found his gun didn’t work. So the bad guy ran off and soon got arrested and the couple was safe.

Point being a 22 is better than nothing—and nobody wants to get shot with one— but unless you’re a Mossad sharpshooter (I read somewhere they were issued tiny little .22 Beretta 950BS pistols) it’s probably not enough to bother with.

Recommending the double action revolver in .38/.357 is very sage advice.

Safer than a semi-automatic in untrained or casual hands, easy to unload and see that it is unloaded, easy to operate and hardly ever jams and never stovepipes.

Mr. Jerry Miculek (among other notables) has proven time and again that the modern double-action wheelgun is easily able to outshoot the semiautomatic pistol, too.

Good on ya.

Those nongun afficionado types wanting to add to their home protection scheme should consider a little .410 gauge pump shotgun, too. Number 4 shot in 3” length. Low penetration plus the sound of a pump shotgun being racked in the dark will be known immediately by any intruder — such has often caused intruders to make a hasty exit upon just hearing it happen.

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Posted by The Machine on August 1, 2006 1:42 AM

BTW a good and inexpensive Gun Lock for any modern double action revolver is a simple padlock — open the cylinder and then lock the padlock around the top strap of the revolver. Cylinder cannot be closed, revolver cannot be fired. At all.

Back in my rookie cop days we used to put one side of our handcuffs through there instead of the padlock. My dad always did that, too. Gun secured.

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Posted by The Machine on August 1, 2006 1:45 AM

Good advice to use .38 ammo in the .357 magnum revolver. Magnum ammo will go thru the bad guy, thru the wall behind him, and thru whatever’s on the other side. Like maybe your neighbor.

Automatics like the Colt .45 put out 8 fat bullets in a hurry- but when you’re bleary-eyed at 3am and that adrenaline hits you as you realize someone’s coming up the stairs, you don’t want to fumble with racking the slide or checking the safety off.

Grab a big fat Smith&Wesson revolver. Point at widest part of bad guy and shoot.

Repeat as necessary.

FWIW I have 2 S&W revolvers. The Model 27 is .357 Magnum. Great sixgun and direct descendant of the first .357s delivered by S&W to the FBI in 1935.

The other is the Model 29 .44 Magnum. It’s for camping trips in bear country.

I agree with the .357 choice with the .38 ammo. From a female perspective, a little practice will make the recoil/kick issue a thing of the past and the weight will help keep her aim true. I’ve had mine over 20 years with no problems. I do think it’s very important to keep a few loaded, quick-change clips for the gun handy. If you’re going to use it in a high-stress situation, the last thing you need is fumbling to reload it. Don’t get a .22. Anyone coming after you won’t be carrying a .22. Serious threats deserve serious defense. Good luck and stay safe, Dr. Rusty.

Posted by PattyAnn on April 12, 2007 7:12 AM

I didn’t realize this post was 6 months old. Hope you are the proud, practiced owner of a .357 and you never need to use it.

Posted by PattyAnn on April 12, 2007 7:23 AM

Wow! Thank you. I always wanted to write in my site something like that. Can I take part of your post to my blog?

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