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Reuters Van Hit by...Something...in Gaza

I just watched the video posted at Hot Air of the armored Reuters truck they say was hit by an IDF rocket. By now you’re tired of bloggers saying, oh, that looks suspicious, but…

That looks suspicious.

Inside the truck there’s no scorching; the windshield is intact, the upholstery is undamaged, and some overhead equipment was knocked down (but appears intact). Also notice what appears to be a small-arms bullet hole above the driver’s side headlight. The hole in the top looks like a jagged tear inside a round depression, as if a bowling ball had crashed into the roof.

Which raises the point that if the Israeli rocket had exploded on top of the armored roof, there ought to be scorching up there. But if the rocket punched through the roof and then detonated, then the inside should have been scorched. And for that matter the whole truck should have been opened up like a big smoky sardine can.

Also notice that the journalists said the doors were open, and they were about to get out, when it was struck. The doors are now closed. The doors still open and close like they’re supposed to after the truck was hit by a rocket.

For reference, once again, here is what an IAF missile did to Hamas boss Abdel Aziz Rantisi’s car:

Now I’m not calling fakery here; I am saying given Reuters’ recent track record in the region, I would really like a network I trust to go over this truck in daylight and see whether the damage is consistent with an IAF rocket hit. It is possible that in the press of action the vehicle was struck by some sort of ordnance and the reporters assumed it was an IDF missile. But if they were preparing to get out of the car from the front seat, they probably would not have seen the missile or whatever it was strike the top rear of the roof.

One possibility is that this was not a missile but a round from an aircraft cannon. I would guess a round of explosive 20-mm ammunition would be able to defeat the Reuters truck’s armor, and a flash of tracer fire might look like an incoming rocket to witnesses standing nearby.

Whatever happened, I look forward to finding out more, and I wish a speedy recovery to the injured journalists.

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Posted by SeeDubya on August 26, 2006 7:42 PM
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I’m with you on the shell theory— that don’t look like a rocket attack. Could have been shrapnel/debris, but punching through the top of the truck? Angle’s all wrong.

Also, I doubt it was explosive, just a plain ol’ shell— anything that goes boom in an enclosed space (say, the inside of a truck) is going to take out the windows.

Then again, I ain’t a ballistics expert, so what the hell do I know?

There is no way to believe Roto-Reuters now. They left their credibility in Lebanon. It’s bad when you can’t even believe their pictures, and as usual it’s a 99 44/100 % chance they are wrong again. Israel doesn’t have that many weak (or left wing) rockets.

Posted by Scrapiron on August 27, 2006 12:20 AM

I don’t know… The inside of the car didn’t look that bad, and even if it was hit by 20mm shells, did those shells only hit the inside of the car, when the door was opened? The right fender seems fine, and there didn’t appear to be any damage on the right side of the vehicle near the door (better shots needed).

As for the bloodsoaked guy — an acquaintence of mine once remarked about forehead injuries, stating that if you get cut there, a surprisingly large amount of blood will come gusing out; he said that due to that reason, japanese swordsman would graze their adverasry’s forehead in order to create an opening while the blood was coming out and imparing their vision. For that reason they also wore headbands. Anyway, my point is that the guy’s injury seems to be just that — a grazed forehead (by what?), and nothing else.

Also, did you notice all those guys huddling around him, “helping” him go to the hospital? Call me a cynic, but looks to me very much like those scenes in the Pallywood movies, where someone fakes an injury, and 10 people around him rush to pick him up, and take him to an ambulance.

Posted by dna on August 27, 2006 9:14 AM

Clearly, if the truck was hit by ordnance, it was either of the nonexplosive variety, or they were very lucky that it was a dud. In either case, the round should have been retrievable at the site (from the ground), or perhaps even from the vehicle after it was moved from the site.

Posted by dwpittelli on August 27, 2006 5:26 PM

It seems pretty clear, armored up or not, that it was not hit by a “missile”. Perhaps a rocket (still unlikely), the 20mm shell sounds like a good fit. It could just as easily been an RPG or grenade as well- perhaps not even Israeli- but they’re not denying it, so we’ll toss those possiblities out.

Someone needs to tell these guys that night vision doesn’t show markings, no matter how many or multi-colored they are. Don’t think markings will protect you- they’re only paint, and by the way- ever heard of friendly fire? If that can happen, so can hitting journalists. While we’re at it, staying in your armored vehicle in ‘hot’ zones is probably good advice as well, and when dismounted, a shoulder held camera from the front looks just like a rocket launcher. Hope that helps.

Posted by douglas on August 28, 2006 6:19 AM

There is a picture on page 1 of New York Times today (4/17/08). The pictures of “Wounded Palestinians lay near the car of Fadel Shana, a cameraman for Reuters…” is credited to: Mohammed Abed/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images.” I googled Mohammed Abed’s name. Now I’m 98% convinced it is staged by the Palestinians. There is no one else around the vehicle except the 2 “victims” and the photographer. I wouldn’t doubt that they blew the truck up themselves — just so Mohammed could get his picture.

Posted by Mary on April 17, 2008 11:28 AM
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