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Huckabee's Foreign Policy Adviser: Michael Corleone?

Rick Moran pointed out this paragraph from Huckabee's Foreign Affairs article (It's at the top of page four, if you can get to it):

Sun-tzu's ancient wisdom is relevant today: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Yet we have not had diplomatic relations with Iran in almost 30 years; the U.S. government usually communicates with the Iranian government through the Swiss embassy in Tehran. When one stops talking to a parent or a friend, differences cannot be resolved and relationships cannot move forward. The same is true for countries.
At first I read that and thought, Sun Tzu said that? I always thought that quote was from...

Yep:

* Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
o This has often been attributed to Sun Tzu and sometimes to Niccolò Machiavelli, but there are no published sources yet found which predate its use by "Michael Corleone" in The Godfather Part II (1974), written by Mario Puzo & Francis Ford Coppola: My father taught me many things here — he taught me in this room. He taught me — keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
It's a good line, and it's not the end of the world if he had just thrown that one off in the stump speech. And hey, the principle is certainly there in Machiavelli (I might find it later today) if not the exact wording.

But Governor? Foreign Affairs. Policy article. Time to impress the swells. Do a little fact checking.

After all, as de Tocqueville said, This is the business we have chosen. Or was that the Federalist Papers?

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Posted by SeeDubya on December 15, 2007 9:26 AM
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One keeps lines of communication as long as there is hope of progress. Lizzie Borden settled her affairs with her parents much as the US did with the Hitler regime without phlanxes of mincing cooky pushers. One must recognize that diplomats have their time and place, and sometimes its out in the sand boxwhile adults take measures in hand.

Posted by Thomas Jackson on December 15, 2007 1:31 PM

You missed this one cite, about the perils of retribution:

Look what they did to my little boy- Clausewitz

Posted by Allan on December 15, 2007 1:44 PM

What about that great quote in answer to those wanting show mercy when holding strategic advantage?

“I don’t feel I have to wipe everybody out. Just my enemies.” - Erwin Rommel

Posted by euston on December 15, 2007 2:02 PM

When in doubt, shoot! Saves having to pull a knife out of your back later.

Posted by GarandFan on December 15, 2007 2:19 PM

“When you have to shoot, shoot, don’t talk.”

Tuco Huckabee

Posted by Russ from Winterset on December 15, 2007 2:35 PM

What part of “unconditional” didn’t you get? U.S. Grant

Posted by Mikey NTH on December 15, 2007 2:44 PM

Leave the gun, take the cannoli.

Posted by Mussolini on December 15, 2007 3:28 PM

“What have I ever done to make you to treat me so disrespectfully. If you had come to me in friendship then this scum that ruined your daughter would be suffering this very day. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies. And then, they would fear you.”

John Jay, Federalist 103.

“You get much more with a sword and a smile than just a smile alone”

Posted by Pliny the Elder on December 15, 2007 4:18 PM

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six!

Posted by Abraham Lincoln on December 15, 2007 5:03 PM

He who has the gold makes the rules.

- Sermon on the Mount

Posted by Matthew on December 15, 2007 5:36 PM

Greed is good.

Posted by Edwin Hubble on December 15, 2007 5:39 PM

I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.

Posted by Benedict Arnold on December 15, 2007 6:07 PM

Excuse me while I whip this out.

Posted by John the Baptist on December 15, 2007 6:10 PM

From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee. For hate’s sake, I spit my last my last breath at thee.

Posted by Mohandas Ghandi on December 15, 2007 6:32 PM

Oh, you ready to blow? Well I’m a mushroom-cloud-laying motherfucker, motherfucker! Everytime my fingers touch brain I’m Superfly TNT, I’m the Guns of the Navarone.

Posted by Woodrow Wilson on December 15, 2007 6:53 PM

With great power comes great responsibility.

- from the tomb of an ancient Apache chief

Posted by Ward Churchill on December 15, 2007 7:01 PM

Who farted?

Posted by Marcus Tullius Cicero on December 15, 2007 7:44 PM

Think of how stupid the average evangelical is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

Posted by dr kill on December 15, 2007 7:49 PM

Let’s do it for johnny!

Posted by William Wallace on December 15, 2007 8:15 PM

“Guiliani sleeps with the fishes.”

“dr kill”:

Piss off, you bigoted wanker. Don’t come back here.

Houston, we have a problem!

Posted by Sam Houston's landlord on December 15, 2007 8:21 PM

Like warm apple pie.

Posted by Sigmund F. on December 15, 2007 8:30 PM

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Posted by Desmond Tutu on December 15, 2007 8:37 PM

Jesus wept.

Posted by The Apostle on December 15, 2007 9:10 PM

It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

Posted by Friedrich Nietzsche on December 15, 2007 9:12 PM

It’s so easy, when everyone’s tryin’ to please me, baby!

Posted by Axl Rose on December 15, 2007 9:46 PM

“Don’t ask me about my business, Kay.” — General Vo Nguyen Giap.

“Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.”

Posted by Yojimbo on December 16, 2007 5:24 AM

Dang, ho. Excellent fellatio, then, is not an act but a habit. You my bitch?

Posted by Socrates on December 16, 2007 8:41 AM

You can get further with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word.….

Posted by Marcus Tuchas on December 16, 2007 8:45 AM

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!

Posted by Mayor Daley on December 16, 2007 8:50 AM

Dr Kill isn’t smart enough to realize the difference between average and median. /irony

Posted by D. Vision on December 16, 2007 12:20 PM

See-Dub,

I believe that it is Machiavelli that gave us the basis for the quote. In The Prince, chapter nine, paragraph five reads as follows:

“Therefore, to make this point clearer, I say that the nobles ought to be looked at mainly in two ways: that is to say, they either shape their course in such a way as binds them entirely to your fortune, or they do not. Those who so bind themselves, and are not rapacious, ought to be honoured and loved; those who do not bind themselves may be dealt with in two ways; they may fail to do this through pusillanimity and a natural want of courage, in which case you ought to make use of them, especially of those who are of good counsel; and thus, whilst in prosperity you honour yourself, in adversity you have not to fear them. But when for their own ambitious ends they shun binding themselves, it is a token that they are giving more thought to themselves than to you, and a prince ought to guard against such, and to fear them as if they were open enemies, because in adversity they always help to ruin him.”

While it doesn’t state planly “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer,” the gist is still present in the passage.

Thomas

You broke my heart. YOU BROKE MY HEART!!!

Posted by Jesus (to Judas) on December 16, 2007 2:58 PM

Eat sh-t and have the taste in your mouth m-f’er then die.

Marine Corp

Posted by Mike on December 16, 2007 3:01 PM

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?

Posted by Edward Gibbon on December 16, 2007 3:05 PM

We go to the mattresses

Posted by Winston Churchill on December 16, 2007 3:51 PM

“I come in peace, I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f**k with me, I’ll kill you all.” General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders. That opening statement apparently got the attention needed at a key meeting that eventually led to the Anbar Awakening.

More wisdom from Marine General Mattis: “Be polite, be professional but have a plan to kill everyone you meet!”

“Wu-Tang Clan ain’t nothin to fuck wit.”

Posted by Dwight Eisenhower on December 16, 2007 4:00 PM

Listen to me. Learn from me. I was not the best because I killed quickly. I was the best because the crowd loved me. Win the crowd and you will win your freedom.

Posted by Marcus Junius Brutus on December 16, 2007 4:03 PM

It’s a hell of a thing, killin’ a man. You take away all he’s got, and all he’s ever gonna have.

Posted by James on December 16, 2007 4:39 PM

Heh. That’s all I can say about this knucklehead at this point. He’s Bill Clinton — the Clenis — all over again. That’s all he is.

But the press is only playing nice with him to get him in the general election against the Clenis and his cuckolded wife. When it’s Hillary v the Huckster, we are going to see the most concerted attack on one candidate from the secular press that you have ever seen.

Every idiotic evangelical quote, every postion that we wish we were hearing about now will come out then.

Posted by Jaibones on December 16, 2007 5:56 PM

Alternative ling to Godfather Part II quote:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071562/quotes

Posted by Fat Man on December 16, 2007 7:57 PM

Yes, Puzo & Coppola have Michael Corleone saying that line, but that’s because they’re familiar with the writings of Sun Tzu and of Machiavelli. Here’s a perfect example the same idea appearing in different cultures, mind-piss, as they say on b3ta.com, when two cartoonists express the same idea in response to a challenge.

Even more amusing is that the quote, regardless of who said it, clearly implies the intent to deceive your enemies. Sun-Tzu, Machiavelli, and Corleone all regarded negotiation as a means to a later ends of defeating your opponent, a point which the Iranians seem to understand all too well.

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