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World Magazine: Romney speech good but not persuasive (UPDATE: RON PAUL PLANT FOOLS WORLDMAG?)

I've always looked to World Magazine as a credible voice for mainstream evangelical thought. Their assessment of the much ballyhooed Romney faith speech?

Romney speech may not sway voters

...But for the average Joes, many of whom said it did reinforce Romney’s morality, the speech didn’t necessarily sway votes, even though they mostly agreed it was good, even presidential sounding. Rabbi Peter Tarlow, of the Texas A&M Hillel Foundation, said he thought Romney “stood up for the importance of giving equal footing for all faiths in America,” though he remains undecided about who he is supporting in 2008. Scott Talbert, pastor of McDade Baptist Church in McDade, Texas, said he thought Romney “has got a real moral compass.” He added that “what he said was often right — like about how we’ve taken this idea of separation of church and state out of control,” but he’s not won over mainly because it’s hard for him not to support Mike Huckabee, a fellow Southern Baptist and former pastor.
World's reporter also quotes a conservative atheist with her nose out of joint (no word whether she's single, Allahpundit, but she's very moral) and a fellow leaning on a sign that proclaims "JOSEPH [Smith] LIED". Let's just say they weren't getting any objective analyst points, if you know what I mean.

Now, I don't know whether a prickly atheist, a rabbi, a Baptist preacher, and an anti-Mormon zealot really make up a collection of "average joes". I kinda hope not. It sounds like the setup to a joke that could get me sent to sensitivity training if I told it at work. What it does tell me: the folks at World sure weren't ready to admit being swept into the Rapture by Mitt's words.

And yes, I totally wouldn't be posting this but for the recent unpleasantness.

UPDATE: When it comes to the "conservative, moral atheist" mentioned in the article, astute JYB commenter Ninjapirate smells well-fertilized foliage:

Jenna Tomlinson, who chairs AARP — Atheists and Agnostics for Ron Paul — at Texas A&M University, said the speech was insulting: “Short version of the speech? ‘I’m Mormon, but at least I’m not an atheist,’ ” she said. “As an atheist and a conservative who considers herself very moral, I was pretty offended that he didn’t talk about the contributions of atheists to America and their right to not believe in any god.”

Yeah, that’s right up Allah’s alley.

And Ninjapirate follows up:
Allah’s out of luck, there isn’t anyone who has a name even close to “Jenna Tomlinson” associated with Texas A&M.

Do a people search for Tomlinson. https://services.tamu.edu/directory-search/

They don’t make their student organizations public for some reason, so I can’t check to see if “Atheists and Agnostics for Ron Paul” even exists. It doesn’t on google. http://studentactivities.tamu.edu/online

I'm posting this update without even bothering to check Ninjapirate's facts, because

A: "Ninjapirate" is a really cool name, and
B: "Conservative, very moral atheist?" Come on. This is obviously some guttersnipe the Paul campaign dressed up and sent to the Romney speech with the promise of medical marijuana or an epic broadsword for her World of Warcraft Dark Elf.

P.S.: I kid.

P.P.S.: Seriously, though, World ought to look into this.

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Posted by SeeDubya on December 7, 2007 7:40 PM
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Jenna Tomlinson, who chairs AARP — Atheists and Agnostics for Ron Paul — at Texas A&M University, said the speech was insulting: “Short version of the speech? ‘I’m Mormon, but at least I’m not an atheist,’ ” she said. “As an atheist and a conservative who considers herself very moral, I was pretty offended that he didn’t talk about the contributions of atheists to America and their right to not believe in any god.”

Yeah, that’s right up Allah’s alley.

Posted by Ninjapirate on December 7, 2007 9:10 PM

Allah’s out of luck, there isn’t anyone who has a name even close to “Jenna Tomlinson” associated with Texas A&M.

Do a people search for Tomlinson. https://services.tamu.edu/directory-search/

They don’t make their student organizations public for some reason, so I can’t check to see if “Atheists and Agnostics for Ron Paul” even exists. It doesn’t on google. http://studentactivities.tamu.edu/online

Posted by Ninjapirate on December 7, 2007 9:42 PM

Romney is by far the smartest guy in the race. With the first baby boomer filing for social security this year, we will need the kind of fiscal brilliance this man can bring as THE financial crisis of history looms over our heads. I consider this a national security issue. Without a strong economy, we will sink. Romney is clean cut (oh the horror), smart, and outside the beltway. No wonder everyone is gunning for him. He is our only chance to avoid “business as usual.” Wake up people. I am VERY Christian, and I am not voting for my spiritual leader. Those who are should go to church.

Posted by mikla on December 7, 2007 9:55 PM

For the record, mikla, I like Romney a lot, wouldn’t mind seeing him get the nomination (though I prefer El Fred), and thought his speech was just fine.

I also like Hugh Hewitt and think he runs a good show. I wouldn’t bother to complain if this was some hack shock jock I didn’t care about.

This response is for Allahpundit and Michelle Malkin and others who have tossed both Hugh and Mitt under the bus for no good reason at all…I don’t think Hugh was off in the least. It blows mind mind that so many conservatives still support liberals like Giuliani or Huckabee, or candidates that stand zero chance of getting elected like Thompson. What candidate do you think would do the best job with all the following topics (and I don’t mean just one or two)…winning against Hillary? Illegal immigration? Managing our economy? Appointing proper Supreme Court justices? Fighting a war on Islamic extremism? I thought that Mitt’s speech will go down in history as one of the best candidate speeches ever given in the history of our nation. Cynicism is great when directed at our enemies. It’s moved into canabalism now that people who long-ago decided to oppose Romney, can’t even view his speech in an impartial manner.

Posted by davenp35 on December 8, 2007 7:55 AM

See-Dubya: I wont’ forgive Fred for McCain-Feingold or voting against impeachment. His still defending these positions tells a lot. He sounds good, but I don’t think he is really that strong. A couple of years in the Senate? Well, I guess that’s as much as a few of the others, but not strong. Quite frankly, he shouldn’t be running for the most stressful job around while he has lymphoma and small children. The campaign looks like it is already taking its toll on hin. I wish him full recovery, but he should be taking care of that.

Posted by Mikla on December 8, 2007 9:16 AM
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