Adrian Grenier is gross.

“I think she’s the only woman I know who’s actually thrown a drink at someone.”

:::clears throat:::

Ah ha! Two defenders of virtue!

Great article. I agree. Women shouldn’t tolerate jerks. Some men have forgotten what being a gentlman is.

Grenier does this because it works, sadly. He’s a celeb douchebag.

But, I’ve seen this work a gazillion times in bars. Most women probably would have gone with him. Sadly.

When I lived in Scotland, I had a policy that if a man touched me inappropriately, I’d grab the nearest drink and throw it in his face. They got apologetic real quick.

Then again, it’s pretty sexist and backward to think you can assault someone because of something they said. I had a girlfriend like that. She’d throw drinks on you, or spit, or storm off in public, or hit/scratch. I assure you, I had done nothing to warrant such behavior. I’ve never struck a woman, nor have I come up to them and made some lewd suggestion.

How about you tell your daughters to keep the drink in the glass and use their words? Then you won’t be setting up one standard for women and another for men.

“AFTERTHOUGHT: You know how they put dye packs in bags of money that they give to armed robbers, so it blows up and sprays them with paint? Well, think of girlie-drink splashes as dye-packs for a******s.”

Again, that is just straight up assault. Kind of appalling, really, to think it’s OK to attack someone physically beacause of something they said, when you would NEVER think that’s cool were the sexes reversed. Then it would be police time, right?

These player type guys partially exist because there is a good sized segment of young girls who have no sexual morals. If a guy knew no girl would sleep with him right off, he’d be a lot less likely to waste his time trying to score. However, if the chances are good he’ll get a yes after a few shoot-downs, he tends to see his odds as pretty good.

I’m not abdicating young mens’ responsibility to be morally upright; just suggesting that there is more than one way to cut down on the player type. Eliminate his main motivation.

That’s interesting. When I act like a jerk in public (virtually every day) I prefer an old fashioned shot ing the family jewels.

Mike: assault is acceptable in several situations, at least socially, if not legally. Call a 6’2” 200 pound man’s wife or girlfriend something nasty and see if the officer charges him with anything. Anywhere south of Mason-Dixon, I bet you’d be the one in jail for the night.

Like it or not, there are double standards for men and women. That’s life.

They do it because it works. The “actor” was just crude but a lot of the methods of those pick up artists are more subtle but work on the principle that women like men who are confident and aggressive. Squirrelly nice guys end up as friends.

Physical retaliation and/or property destruction for a bad pickup line? Smells fishy to me.

Reminds me of the old movie/TV show staple of wives throwing dangerous kitchen objects at their husbands at the slightest provocation. It may be funny to watch on TV but that does not make it a reasonable form of protest to a non-physical threat in reality.

The day I can be assaulted with no recourse for joking with a person of female persuasion, is the day I start believing sharia law has a place in the US.

“Like it or not, there are double standards for men and women. That’s life.”

That’s all I’m sayin’. What this writer is advocating is assault, based on the “it’s OK if a woman does it” excuse. It’s ridiculous to think that this is acceptable behavior. Get loud, laugh in his face, draw attention to him, but don’t throw drinks, as I’ve been there - as I wrote above - and I know the kind of woman who throws a drink tends to be more of a loon than a victim. (I anticipate that someone will say “he probably desrved it,” but I assure you I did not).

Feh. A drink in the face is “assault”? Suck it up, buttercup.

It’s perfectly ok and both my daughters know it. They also know where the line is and when it’s crossed.

And my 3 sons, who are growing to be tall, well educated, handsome young men - the kind a woman would want = are going to get some advice from me as well: If ever you see a woman throw her drink on someone, that is a woman to stay away from at all costs, because she is prone to displays of inappropriate behavior.

I asked my wife about this tactic, and she immediately said that throwing drinks is silly and unnecessary.

My wife poured a full mug of beer over a guys head once for something similar, which also involved a little bit of inapropriate touching, (while I was standing a few steps away witnessing the exchange).

The guy looked like such a goof standing there dripping beer that it took a second for me to decide whether to to laugh or punch him. With sober reflection we’re probalby lucky the bouncer stepped in before fists started flying.

What this writer is advocating is assault, based on the “it’s OK if a woman does it” excuse.

The difference between your sad tales and the discussion here is that the offender did deserve it. The fact that you didn’t deserve the punishment you received speaks to the merits of the company you keep, not to the legitimacy of using a drink to deter a boor.

“The fact that you didn’t deserve the punishment you received speaks to the merits of the company you keep, not to the legitimacy of using a drink to deter a boor.”

My last word:

WRT your uncalled-for insult to me, thanks for your support. It was a long long time ago, and I learned from it: stay away from that kind of person. The incident the writer describes is an inappropriate response to boorish behavior. It’s like people are getting their behavior cues from 1940’s B movies; all bad drama and over-the-top gestures.

WRT your uncalled-for insult to me, thanks for your support.

Didn’t you say that: “I had a girlfriend like that. She’d throw drinks on you, or spit, or storm off in public, or hit/scratch?” She was: “the kind of woman who throws a drink tends to be more of a loon than a victim” and “she is prone to displays of inappropriate behavior?”

Criticizing “the company you keep” was only echoing your own words.

The fact remains that you’re advocating a double standard based on gender. Of course there are differences between men and women - these differences, however, are not generally invoked to allow for one or the other to bear no responsibility for their actions. No doubt you think there is something ‘chivalrous’ about your willingness to allow women to follow a more lax rule of conduct than man; in fact, this is simply sexist - adult women, like adult men, should recognize that throwing drinks is not generally appropriate behavior. Your apparent belief that women can’t be expected to act with maturity is rather unfortunate, as it implies that they simply don’t know any better.

And this is just plain stupid: “Like it or not, there are double standards for men and women. That’s life.” As I recall there used to be double standards for women, minorities, Catholics, Hindus, etc. throughout the world. So your point is instead of trying to examine society critically we should just shrug and pretend we’re really stoic by saying “That’s life” because secretly we’re just far too lazy to actually question it?

Ok, I’m gonna get flamed for this, but I kinda think these guys have a point. Throwing a drink on someone, regardless of how deserved that action may be, is not exactly taking the high road. You know what I do? I don’t associate with the kind of “men” who deserve to have drinks thrown on them. If that means I need to avoid a certain bar, then that’s what I do.

Of course, I exude some sort of magical man-repelling field, so it’s not like I would need to worry about it anyway, but even so.

I’m gonna get flamed for this…

Consider it done. Splash!!

Dang she’s quick with that drink!

It’s already gender asymmetric. Just consider person A laying hands on person B’s posterior. Is any one going to claim that the genders of A and B are irrelevant, both to A and B and reasonable observers? Given that, drink throwing might be an appropriate response for one gender but not the other, because the instigating act is perceived very differently.

I asked my wife about this tactic

No shit, really?

Did not see that coming.

What this writer is advocating is assault,

::rolling on floor laughing::

And what, pray tell, is it when a man walks up to a gal he doesn’t know, and either inappropriately touches her, or says such unrepeatable vile things to her face?

I’d recommend a slap across the cheek, but frankly, men are such boors nowadays that they’d probably hit the poor girl right back!

“No shit, really?

Did not see that coming.”

Yeah, we disagre, so I must be a liar, right?

Well, it could be worse. I could be some fat slob who threatens to reveal posters’ personal information on the ‘net…